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Migrating as a PHD student to US
nctnico:
I have some family members who just ventured to the US, found work and became legal US citizens from there. It took time but AFAIK they didn't spend lots of money on lawyers or so. AFAIK they just applied for US citizenship lottery and got it at some point.
bdunham7:
--- Quote from: nctnico on April 16, 2024, 07:14:48 pm ---I have some family members who just ventured to the US, found work and became legal US citizens from there. It took time but AFAIK they didn't spend lots of money on lawyers or so. AFAIK they just applied for US citizenship lottery and got it at some point.
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If you come from a country that is on the current list of nations with low immigration rates, you can enter the diversity lottery for a green card (permanent residence). Netherlands is on that list. There is no citizenship lottery, you can apply after 5 years of permanent residence. You don't need an attorney for any stage, but immigration lawyers aren't that expensive and can spot trouble before it happens. That's probably more important at the citizenship stage since the applicant has more to lose. Hiring an attorney after your application has been rejected is much more painful.
Stray Electron:
--- Quote from: jonpaul on April 16, 2024, 10:38:54 am ---PhD are overrated and not benefit to income longterm.
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That's not true in the US. My wife and daughter both have PhDs and both made/make a ton of money. When I worked for a US defense company, we were required to have a certain number of people on each program with BS, MS and PhDs and one of the guys that I worked with had been hired specifically because he had a PhD, but it was in English literature!
But it's not clear what the OP wants to get a PhD in. And it also sounds like he wants to start his own company, so a PhD may not benefit him.
One of my cousins is currently working as a research and teaching assistant at U of F while he works on his PhD. He's not getting paid much but he is making a LOT of very beneficial contacts in industry and has already received several very lucrative job offers.
SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: jonpaul on April 16, 2024, 10:38:54 am ---PhD are overrated and not benefit to income longterm.
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That's often true in Europe, probably a bit less so in the USA. Also, that might be a way to get your foot in the door, if you want to migrate to the US but don't have a job offer there/sponsor.
--- Quote from: jonpaul on April 16, 2024, 10:38:54 am ---Useful to remain lifetime acamedician or teacher, not for real engineering.
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Often true, but again depends a bit. It's also useful if you want to eventually get any kind of high-level engineering management position, especially in larger companies.
thermistor-guy:
--- Quote from: ali_asadzadeh on April 16, 2024, 08:42:55 am ---... But the cons are that I have to live hard(by not being paid well), and doing academic papers for at least 3.5 to 4 years, I like to thinker around and building things, and as a starter it would be ok to be an employee buy finally I'm a man of starting my own business...
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Not advice, but points to consider:
Are you using the PhD work to build the technical foundation of the business you want to develop?
Will the PhD thesis tackle one of your ideas, or one of your supervisor's ideas? If the latter, are you ok with working on someone else's idea for 3-4 years,
while putting your own on hold?
Universities typically want you to sign over all rights to any Intellectual Property you develop, while you are a student - even IP you come up with in your spare
time, that's not part of your thesis. Are you prepared to do that?
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