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Migrating as a PHD student to US

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ali_asadzadeh:
I know PHD would not help me on income specially if I want to start my own company, But I see it as an easier option for immigration, the real question for me is that if I can do freelance work in that period to have more income, since 2000$ would not be enough for living, also suppose that I could convince my self that this is the route that I should choose, after finishing the PHD, what are the chances of building a successfully company in tech? are there any helpful laws there to ease that? I have no Idea how hard or beneficial is to start companies there. But I think I have very good Ideas :)

jonpaul:
Dear Sir:

 PhD is not your true  objective but just an  excuse and means to get into the USA.
But the USA is already  overflowing with immigrants.
And  with faux PhDs,

My humble  suggestion:

stay in Canada
go to a Canadian  university  or tech school, Many excellent schools there.
get a job in industry IN CANADA

Just my idea

Have an absolutely fantastic day!

j

jpanhalt:

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I concur with jonpaul and the obvious. 

Getting a PhD simply for the hypothetical easier pass into the US is not a good idea.  Earning a PhD will take (if you work diligently and don't get stuck in a dead end) about 4 to 6 years.  Then, there is the usually mandated 2 year year return to Canada, unless you can get it converted.  Two big if's.  Working as an independent contractor while in a legitimate graduate school raises all sorts of concerns.  It may not even be allowed on the basis of conflict of interest, you're already paid a graduate stipend, and/or IP.*  Moreover, if you go to a 3rd rate school for the PhD, I suspect getting an employer to sponsor you would be difficult.

*As I recall, that has has been challenged in court and the student won.  The last thing you want to do is challenge the requirements of a school to which you are applying.

EEVblog:

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Getting into a US PhD program is a reasonably good start of an immigration strategy as long as you understand the rules and are willing to commit to the process.
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There are other ways to immigrate to the US, but starting a PhD program and dropping out probably isn't the best plan.

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I agree with bdunham7 here.  I have seen at least one very disappointed person who tried that.  I've also seen H1B's who failed to convert (to permanent) and that too is heart breaking when they are forced to pack up and move back.

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Not quite related, but when I tried to go to the US for technically a few day paid gig to attend a trade show and shoot a video, even the entire legal department of the huge corporation couldn't get permission from US immigration for me to enter. They said it was just too complex a system. In the end they phoned me up (to leave no email trail) and told me to just come as a regular tourist. And if immigration/customs asked, the company had never heard of me  8)

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: ali_asadzadeh on April 16, 2024, 08:42:55 am ---There comes an opportunity for me to apply as a PHD student in US, they would offer a student visa and they would pay around 2000$ for being a prof assistant,
I wanted to know your feedback on it, since I like immigrating to us this might be an easy choice, But the cons are that I have to live hard(by not being paid well), and doing academic papers for at least 3.5 to 4 years, I like to thinker around and building things, and as a starter it would be ok to be an employee buy finally I'm a man of starting my own business, and I do not think that visa would give me the chance to work as an employee in that time
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$2000 per week/month/year?
And also where you live can make a huge difference in expenses.
Immigration issues aside, baseline problem is can you live on that money in that location?
As others have said, immigration laws can be complex, and I've also heard, at the complete whim of the immigration official you get.

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