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Migrating the forum to Discourse
james_s:
That's definitely a negative. I block javascript by default and only allow it on a rare few sites. It does not seem like something necessary for a forum.
KaneTW:
From my experience XenForo runs fine without JS. It complains, and some features go directly to the HTML fallback, but everything works.
MyHeadHz:
--- Quote from: ddavidebor on March 29, 2020, 02:59:35 pm ---Hello,
I have had this thought for a few years. Wouldn't it make sense to migrate the forum to the Discourse platform?
Yes, it's not easy. This is a big forum.
There are pretty much only advantages in switching platform, it's pretty much time, but there are risks in the migration also.
Pros:
* finally modern mobile experience
* much better readability for the forum
* improved engagement with younger audiences (!!!)
* way better search
* Ability to easily leverage managed databases such as digitalocean's ones which I personally recommend
* Lower resources consumption
* faster website
* improved engagement with the many tools discourse provide
* ease of moderation, discourse forums are mostly self-moderating requiring only limited oversight
* modern features like modern editor, better emojis, social login,
* way way way easier management and upgrades
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When you first posted this I didn't think you would get anyone as it was so obvious. OK, so congrats you got a few to fall for your silly prank.
I'd really rather you didn't spam up the forum like this though. This place is really a great resource, and this sort of silliness has the potential to drive people away.
daqq:
--- Quote ---I can't but notice all the users complaining have thousands of posts each. You're just used to PhPbb and complaining cause you don't like the sofa to be moved near the window. This is not really a useful discussion.
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1) How is ignoring the advice and requests from people who contribute the most to the forum a good idea? I'm OK with moving the sofa near the window, provided there is a point and it improves the room. Change for the sake of change is foolish.
2) I can't help but notice that all of the users who actually want the change are you and no one else.
Also, I have looked at a few discourse forums, the selfloading monstrosities. Please show me a thread comparable in size to this: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/ in discourse. How well would it scale? When I want to see something on page 562, what do I have to do?
It seems to me that Discourse is great for support 'forums' where someone asks "How do I do X?", there are two replies and that's it. Now for actual discussion and advancement of the problem.
As to the self moderation you explained, WTF? Moderators effectively get to be chosen by popularity contests? Can I be a moderator?
magic:
--- Quote from: tooki on March 29, 2020, 11:08:04 pm ---They clearly haven't learned about affordances, discoverability, UI stability (as in "things don't move around and appear and disappear", not crash-proofing), etc.
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They are learning about AB testing, moving fast and breaking things, eyeball retention, ad impressions, all the usual stuff :P
--- Quote from: EEVblog on March 29, 2020, 11:42:33 pm ---On bbs style forum's like this people put a lot more thought and effort into a good post. Some posts are so good and technically detailed they become direct go-to pages in the internet.
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And this is possible because the forum is a bunch of dynamically generated HTML pages one can link to. Linking to individual content in those user-side-rendered javascript monstrosities is typically either impossible or results in a myriad dumb problems because developers of that junk can't get navigation right. And half of users who browse without JS wouldn't even bother going there.
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