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SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: KE5FX on March 31, 2020, 11:05:28 pm ---[...]
The infinite-scrolling model doesn't have to suck.  It just happens to do so, in all of its current incarnations.

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If a big enough buffer is loaded at a time -  one that corresponds to a whole normal page, for example - it shouldn't suck more than having separate pages, I guess. 

The load-on-scroll should work in the background, so it always loads +/- one "page" from where the browser window is currently displaying. 

In other words, the user shouldn't have to scroll all the way down to the bottom (or all the way to the top) before loading the next segment...   this should be "anticipated" by the software long before it happens.

If it was done this way, it might be nicer than separate pages. 

Search is still a challenge.

Brumby:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on April 01, 2020, 02:13:40 pm ---If a big enough buffer is loaded at a time -  one that corresponds to a whole normal page, for example - it shouldn't suck more than having separate pages, I guess. 

The load-on-scroll should work in the background, so it always loads +/- one "page" from where the browser window is currently displaying. 

In other words, the user shouldn't have to scroll all the way down to the bottom (or all the way to the top) before loading the next segment...   this should be "anticipated" by the software long before it happens.

If it was done this way, it might be nicer than separate pages.

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Sorry - but, no.  A thousand times no.
hli:

--- Quote from: daqq on March 30, 2020, 06:47:21 am ---Also, I have looked at a few discourse forums, the selfloading monstrosities. Please show me a thread comparable in size to this: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/ in discourse. How well would it scale? When I want to see something on page 562, what do I have to do?

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The home-assistant forum has some larger threads. I did not look too deep, but there are some with 3k+ posts (not as big as the TEA thread, but still): https://community.home-assistant.io/t/echo-devices-alexa-as-media-player-testers-needed/58639

What you can see:

* no threading
* very rare use of quoting
* you don't browse by page, but instead by date (on the right side)
* one can link to individual postsSeems to work quite well (and scrolling to a certain date in the time-line is quite fast), but I find it quite unreadable (I have a 27'' screen, just use it). Too much whiete, to less distinction between the posts.
tggzzz:

--- Quote from: hli on April 01, 2020, 03:40:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: daqq on March 30, 2020, 06:47:21 am ---Also, I have looked at a few discourse forums, the selfloading monstrosities. Please show me a thread comparable in size to this: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/ in discourse. How well would it scale? When I want to see something on page 562, what do I have to do?

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The home-assistant forum has some larger threads. I did not look too deep, but there are some with 3k+ posts (not as big as the TEA thread, but still): https://community.home-assistant.io/t/echo-devices-alexa-as-media-player-testers-needed/58639

What you can see:

* no threading
* very rare use of quoting
* you don't browse by page, but instead by date (on the right side)
* one can link to individual postsSeems to work quite well (and scrolling to a certain date in the time-line is quite fast), but I find it quite unreadable (I have a 27'' screen, just use it). Too much whiete, to less distinction between the posts.

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If it doesn't have easy multi-level quoting, then the context of a conversation will be lost. That means the only conversations will be very simple, therefore very boring and relatively uninteresting. All that is left is single-line questions and answers like "which button do I press to squirdle the gammeticon?". Examples: stackexchange, edaboard. Yuck.

In contrast multi-level quoting allows and encourages subtle conversations including discussion of "why", "why not", "in what circumstances".
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: Brumby on April 01, 2020, 03:03:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on April 01, 2020, 02:13:40 pm ---If a big enough buffer is loaded at a time -  one that corresponds to a whole normal page, for example - it shouldn't suck more than having separate pages, I guess. 

The load-on-scroll should work in the background, so it always loads +/- one "page" from where the browser window is currently displaying. 

In other words, the user shouldn't have to scroll all the way down to the bottom (or all the way to the top) before loading the next segment...   this should be "anticipated" by the software long before it happens.

If it was done this way, it might be nicer than separate pages.

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Sorry - but, no.  A thousand times no.

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It would be like auto-loading the next page as well as the one you're viewing.  It could be an advantage when you read sequentially.
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