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james_s:
From what I've seen, Discourse is horrible. It has gone with that "jumble of text floating in a sea of white" fad that makes it so hard for me to focus on anything. The mobile interface for this forum is horrid since the last update but at least on a proper browser it's quite good. It utilizes shading nicely to differentiate things from one another.

The mobile experience here was already broken by an update, why would we want to break the rest of the forum by migrating to a new platform? It works fine, leave it alone!
amyk:
I'll add another "do NOT want!" to everyone else here who already has...

From link above:

--- Quote ---Discourse is designed for the next 10 years of the Internet, so the minimum browser requirements are high.
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|O :palm: I've already had it with idiotic sites turning into bloated horrible web-apps that complain if your browser is even slightly older than the latest, despite the fact that something 20 years ago would've been perfectly fine for the functionality. The moment this site goes in that direction is the moment I leave.
ataradov:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 29, 2020, 09:30:31 pm ---It has gone with that "jumble of text floating in a sea of white" fad that makes it so hard for me to focus on anything.

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Yep, every time google leads me to a discourse forum, I just close the tab. It is usually a mess that is impossible to navigate and understand. But it has likes, follows and subscribes.
ddavidebor:

--- Quote from: daqq on March 29, 2020, 07:30:10 pm ---At a quick glance I see no added value, *maybe* aside from the better mobile interface, which I don't use anyway.


--- Quote ---* much better readability for the forum
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How does that work? I can read the forum just fine.

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The readability is mainly improved by dropping the "pages" for continuous loading.  In general, long threads are more readable on discourse, and can be browsed quickly by date through a cursor on the right side of the page. That alone is pretty much how it became popular.


--- Quote from: daqq on March 29, 2020, 07:30:10 pm ---At a quick glance I see no added value, *maybe* aside from the better mobile interface, which I don't use anyway.


--- Quote ---* improved engagement with younger audiences (!!!)
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How does that work exactly? What's stopping younger audiences from using a standard forum?

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In general phpbb interface reflects standards with wich newer users are not familiar anymore and consider offputting.


--- Quote from: daqq on March 29, 2020, 07:30:10 pm ---At a quick glance I see no added value, *maybe* aside from the better mobile interface, which I don't use anyway.

--- Quote ---* ease of moderation, discourse forums are mostly self-moderating requiring only limited oversight
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How does self moderation work?

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It has a structure where users progressively and automatically gain power as they gain engagement and respect from the community. Of course, the real power is in the hands of who controls the software.
https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/who-has-which-moderation-powers-on-discourse/29805
ddavidebor:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 29, 2020, 09:30:31 pm ---From what I've seen, Discourse is horrible. It has gone with that "jumble of text floating in a sea of white" fad that makes it so hard for me to focus on anything. The mobile interface for this forum is horrid since the last update but at least on a proper browser it's quite good. It utilizes shading nicely to differentiate things from one another.

The mobile experience here was already broken by an update, why would we want to break the rest of the forum by migrating to a new platform? It works fine, leave it alone!

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I agree, the default theme is shit, but a couple of tweaks to make the page largers and change the color theme and it's pretty good. Many themes are available.
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