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| Nominal Animal:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on April 02, 2020, 03:34:00 pm --- --- Quote from: Nominal Animal on April 02, 2020, 11:58:39 am ---In an ongoing discussion threading is extremely useful, exactly because of the bifurcation: each sub-discussion can concentrate on the details, and the communication is not restricted to a linear format. However, reading those afterwards is slow, as it can be difficult to reconstruct the complete flow; you often have to read the entire related discussion linearly in posted order, to understand it all. --- End quote --- It need not be slow, if multilevel quotes are used. Having the tree explicitly visible is a great help as well, as it visually separates subthreads. --- End quote --- I meant that the nature of following a bifurcating discussion afterwards is hard, because of the bifurcation itself. If you examine each discussion from the root (or initially quoted message) to each leaf message, you end up going back to the bifurcation-causing messages, and the overall timeline across all sub-threads gets smudged. A human problem, not a technical one per se. As a practical example, I prefer to use the marc.info interface over the LKML one, when following the Linux Kernel Mailing List. The marc.info interface shows the messages in time order, with the number of messages in each thread in brackets just before the subject. When I see a relevant subject, I check the thread view, and read the initial post of the thread. Depending on it, I may skip the thread, read the "key posts" (from subsystem maintainers and such, that I recognize), or read all posts thus far in the thread. Essentially, I treat the linux-kernel mailing list the same way this forum works: subjects sorted by time, with posts under each subject/thread in their posted order. It just works best for me. --- Quote from: tggzzz on April 02, 2020, 03:34:00 pm ---It is all old technology known to the greybeards back in the mid 80s. Youngsters forget history. --- End quote --- For sure. This stuff hasn't changed in the last 30 years at all, except for some not so important technical details (like more bandwidth and CPU power available to do things that used to be too slow to be useful; and text formatting and image support when web forums became available a bit over 20 years ago). |
| nardev:
IMHO It's great, nice looking, very light interface but not good for all types of content. I don't think it's great for EEVBlog Forum either. |
| james_s:
I'm actually surprised at the amount of agreement we've seen here. Usually if someone posts a terrible idea at least 10% of the population will jump on board if only to be contrarian but so far this seems to be unanimous aside from the OP. |
| Electro Detective:
--- Quote from: james_s on April 02, 2020, 07:54:07 pm --- I'm actually surprised at the amount of agreement we've seen here. Usually if someone posts a terrible idea at least 10% of the population will jump on board if only to be contrarian but so far this seems to be unanimous aside from the OP. --- End quote --- :o :o :o amazing! DJ has eevblog.com forum purring perfectly, for a long while now, why mess with another forum format and invite unpaid work getting familiar and or chasing and stomping on reported bugs ? I believe the winning forum format is one that works across all browser platforms, old and new If the forum 'works' every time, people will rock up here, be it with the latest slick gaming/AV rig or a Pentium 111 clunker running Win2000/XP and FWIW many people have lives to get on with, including web surfing and communicating to do, not waste time on browser updates to use added website features, or cater to the plethora of questionable security updates/patches/bandaids/opioids etc, praying some malware, adware or bugware hasn't crawled in, or not caught at the Beta release stage, 'latest' features that should be an option to load, not a forced necessity just to 'view the content' or to tick some Checkout boxes, The Finger to all that, no more! :-- |
| tautech:
--- Quote from: Electro Detective on April 02, 2020, 10:34:08 pm --- --- Quote from: james_s on April 02, 2020, 07:54:07 pm --- I'm actually surprised at the amount of agreement we've seen here. Usually if someone posts a terrible idea at least 10% of the population will jump on board if only to be contrarian but so far this seems to be unanimous aside from the OP. --- End quote --- :o :o :o amazing! DJ has eevblog.com forum purring perfectly, for a long while now, why mess with another forum format and invite unpaid work getting familiar and or chasing and stomping on reported bugs ? --- End quote --- Yet the one annoying thing with SMF unlike other platforms is the Reply button in each post where if you hit it a reply is generated with no reference to the post where the Reply button was. We all know to use the Quote button instead where other forums maintain the reference to the post from where you generated the reply. Confusing yes, especially for the newbie and a SMF patch for this would be a great improvement for EEVblog. |
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