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| magic:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on April 05, 2020, 03:29:09 pm ---https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_design --- End quote --- Please post trigger warnings before links to such graphic content. I wasn't prepared for that iOS screenshot. Yuck. |
| tggzzz:
I agree with all your points, and would like to highlight these: --- Quote from: peter-h on April 05, 2020, 05:00:30 pm ---BUT (and this is a huge BUT) the people who make useful contributions are almost never writing on a phone! Why? Because it is so painful. They are using a laptop or a PC, or possibly a tablet with a bluetooth keyboard. And yes they are nowadays a minority, but if you are trying to create and maintain an informative forum (and EEVblog certainly is that) you need to focus on these great contributors. Going for the "live on a phone" community just produces a forum which fills up with banal one-liners (i.e. like most of the internet). ... What has changed over the last maybe 5 years is that the “one line tossing” activity (posters who toss in one-liners comprising mostly of drivel, smart-ar*e comments, etc) has moved to the new social media channels, with facebook being the main one for older people (the young are deserting fb and are moving to twitter, instagram, etc). And most forums, across all subjects, are full of that stuff. --- End quote --- Good. Shame it doesn't completely discourage trolls. --- Quote ---So I think EEVblog should stay like it is, because it is the present format which keeps the good contributors. --- End quote --- |
| peter-h:
The other thing you need, as an admin, is good functionality for detecting windups and such. You need to be able to detect in an instant if somebody is running multiple characters, for example. We had one guy who created about a dozen, but fortunately he knew nothing about IT so kept making the same basic mistakes. I won't say any more because we want trolls etc to keep making these mistakes :) What I find is that a lot of people read the forum while say travelling, on their phone, just to catch up, but those who write stuff worth reading usually do that when in front of a PC (or a Mac, obviously). So the site has to work acceptably on a phone. Another thing is that roughly 1/3 of new signups are spammers. This really started maybe a couple of years ago. We have gone to a manual approval process, because it got too much. I would get out of bed at 7am and find somebody posted a load of fake passport adverts all over the forum. In the manual approval step various things are checked which I won't discuss openly. Also at this step one checks for duplicate personas... |
| tautech:
--- Quote from: peter-h on April 05, 2020, 07:03:51 pm ---The other thing you need, as an admin, is good functionality for detecting windups and such. You need to be able to detect in an instant if somebody is running multiple characters, for example. We had one guy who created about a dozen, but fortunately he knew nothing about IT so kept making the same basic mistakes. I won't say any more because we want trolls etc to keep making these mistakes :) --- End quote --- The mods do a pretty good job of that here and even the recent twit that used a proxy server was able to be squished. --- Quote ---What I find is that a lot of people read the forum while say travelling, on their phone, just to catch up, but those who write stuff worth reading usually do that when in front of a PC (or a Mac, obviously). So the site has to work acceptably on a phone. --- End quote --- Yeah been there when travelling too and one lined replies too :palm: but at least we have a way to mark posts so when next at a PC we can prepare proper indepth replies instead if struggling with phones or iPads. ::) Mark a post with Thanks and return to it later from the record of Thanks given in one's profile works pretty well. :) |
| ddavidebor:
--- Quote from: Siwastaja on April 04, 2020, 07:19:44 am ---It's the classical group lynching mentality. Happens on this forum time-to-time, like it happens everywhere. Yes, it sucks. There are psychological reasons for that, too. In this case, I would theoretize that many of us have, at some point in our professional careers, been abused by incompetent micromanaging bosses with bloated egos. These bosses often work by bringing in the buzzword bingo. As a result, some have developed an allergy-like condition to such business buzzword way of rationalization. It goes like this: - You NEED to use Docker because it's hot right now. - Wat, wait, but Docker has absolutely nothing to do with anything? You can't put the microcontroller in Docker! - We will use Docker, end of discussion... The OP did show exact same paradigm of discussion, including the part with arrogance, which I think is why it gave such strong reactions to some of us. Then, when some people react strongly, possibly from understandable reasons, there always are those mindless puppets who join the group lynching when they see it happen. This is when the thing gets ugly, IMHO. I'm OK with a group getting against one if they show the reasons. When the scanvengers join, I'm out. --- End quote --- Yep. |
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