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EEVblog:

--- Quote from: Bassman59 on April 09, 2020, 04:44:50 am ---
--- Quote from: ddavidebor on March 29, 2020, 02:59:35 pm ---I have had this thought for a few years. Wouldn't it make sense to migrate the forum to the Discourse platform?
Yes, it's not easy. This is a big forum.
There are pretty much only advantages in switching platform, it's pretty much time, but there are risks in the migration also.
Pros:
* modern features like modern editor, better emojis, social login,
--- End quote ---
I just read through the ten pages of unanimous response to this proposal, and there was only one thing that was not mentioned as a total fucking no is the "social login."
Facebook and Google login are privacy and security disasters. Nobody needs to link their Facebook account to other websites. Why tell Facebook everything? It's ridiculous.
It's not at all hard to create accounts on the websites you use. Now that every browser has a built-in password manager, you don't even have to remember the passwords.

--- End quote ---

I wouldn't even make social login an option here out of principle, I don't like the concept.
Mandatory https and a 2FA option was recently added. OpenID used to be available but had to be dropped for some reason I don't remember.
I'd love to add hardware 2FA but the plugin doesn't support it.

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: amyk on April 09, 2020, 01:22:34 pm ---I've never used Facebook, and never will. Any sites that require it are simply not going to be visited.

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Remarkably, Farcebook still tracks people that don't have an account with them.

The keys are cookies used as UIDs, the Facebook logo on many pages, the referring page contained in the http request, and a little JavaScript.

tooki:

--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on April 09, 2020, 10:52:51 am ---
--- Quote ---Now that every browser has a built-in password manager, you don't even have to remember the passwords.
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You're daft if you're going to rely on your browser to manage passwords. Much easier to lose them that way then forgetting them - use a separate password manager at minimum, one that isn't tied to a particular product or - worse - a particular instance of a product.
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FWIW, in the specific case of Safari (both Mac and iOS), the actual password manager is the OS’s Keychain (a secure storage database the Mac has had since the early 90s). In theory, other browsers could also use it, they just choose to roll their own. What’s fascinating is the iCloud Keychain option: it sounds as though it would save it in the cloud, but it doesn’t. iCloud actually just marshals the individual devices to share their keys peer-to-peer, so they never hit the cloud. The weird consequence of this is that if you did manage to lose the data on all of your devices, your keychain would be well and truly lost.

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on April 09, 2020, 01:40:21 pm ---
--- Quote from: amyk on April 09, 2020, 01:22:34 pm ---I've never used Facebook, and never will. Any sites that require it are simply not going to be visited.

--- End quote ---

Remarkably, Farcebook still tracks people that don't have an account with them.

The keys are cookies used as UIDs, the Facebook logo on many pages, the referring page contained in the http request, and a little JavaScript.

--- End quote ---

Google obviously does the same...   for example, when you use Captcha they really Gotcha!

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on April 09, 2020, 04:34:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on April 09, 2020, 01:40:21 pm ---
--- Quote from: amyk on April 09, 2020, 01:22:34 pm ---I've never used Facebook, and never will. Any sites that require it are simply not going to be visited.

--- End quote ---

Remarkably, Farcebook still tracks people that don't have an account with them.

The keys are cookies used as UIDs, the Facebook logo on many pages, the referring page contained in the http request, and a little JavaScript.

--- End quote ---

Google obviously does the same...   for example, when you use Captcha they really Gotcha!

--- End quote ---

And Twitter Verizon/Yahoo/OAuth, and probably the other icons shown at the bottom centre of the page.

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