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drussell:

--- Quote from: ehughes on April 10, 2020, 05:14:37 pm ---(Note,   I assume this forum uses phpBB or a derivative as it looks very close and the page source looks like it)
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Nope, SMF.
MarkMLl:

--- Quote from: james_s on April 10, 2020, 09:37:05 pm ---I'd prefer a website that looks like something from 1996 any day over one that I have to allow scripts from a dozen different sources to even get it to load properly.

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I agree. And while FTP- or more precisely idiot users with a single password for everything- is a problem, it's probably a smaller problem than the potential for intrusion from running every script and plugin that arrives without wondering what it does.

I have two browsers open on my desktop. The first is very firmly locked down and gets used for most browsing... and if somebody can't present his message without demanding I execute his media I'm likely to close it fast. The second uses NoScript to grant limited access to eBay etc., and to foramina like this one (which by coincidence are all based on SMF).

MarkMLl
james_s:
I use a low security password on my ftp server anyway, it's one of the ones I put on stuff that I don't mind friends and family knowing because I don't use it on anything I care about having particularly secure. It's like a cheap padlock, it keeps the honest people from stumbling in and messing with stuff, the dishonest can break in easily enough if they really want to but there's nothing of any real value in there anyway so why bother. In the ~15 years I've had one running nobody has ever trashed it.
tooki:

--- Quote from: james_s on April 10, 2020, 09:37:05 pm ---I'd prefer a website that looks like something from 1996 any day over one that I have to allow scripts from a dozen different sources to even get it to load properly. I'm interested in content, I want to have as much information as possible with as little effort as possible required to extract it. All that added bloat only gets in my way.

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Yep. I am SO sick of sites using all that javascript for ads and other nonsense that doesn't do anything for me. I am not opposed to ads -- I absolutely understand that ads fund a lot of the sites I use. I consent to ads as such. What I do not consent to is 10x as long page loads (little of which is actually due to the payload size, but rather because of the sequenced requests caused by nested scripts) and web pages using incredible amounts of CPU just to sit there. I'm the kind of person who tends to have lots of browser windows open, and if every one of those were allowed to load all the scripts it wanted, my CPU would be pegged, all the time.

So I use ad blockers to block all that crap, simply to reclaim my computer resources. If websites were willing to do server-side ads, such that by the time they reach my browser, there's no scripts, I'd be OK with allowing ads. But IMHO, using your readers' computer resources greedily is disrespectful, and I absolutely have no obligation to permit it.

I also wish I could put out a bounty on anyone who uses a lightbox (the thing where the page dims and a modal dialog appears) to ask me to sign up for your newsletter. I guarantee, using one of those to nag me before I've even had a chance to read the page is the way to get me to not even consider signing up, no matter what.
PlainName:

--- Quote ---sites using all that javascript for ads and other nonsense that doesn't do anything for me
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I don't mind those - they are easy to block :)

It's the sites that require humongous js and other rubbish just to display the actual content that annoy me.
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