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tooki:

--- Quote from: MrMobodies on April 11, 2020, 09:38:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on April 11, 2020, 07:48:02 pm ---
I also wish I could put out a bounty on anyone who uses a lightbox (the thing where the page dims and a modal dialog appears) to ask me to sign up for your newsletter. I guarantee, using one of those to nag me before I've even had a chance to read the page is the way to get me to not even consider signing up, no matter what.

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I always wondered what they were called, that's the thing that has been hurting my eyes. Some of them say "Sorry for the intrustion" about their cookies when they don't realize it maybe uncomfortable when they darken the rest of the page.

I think of it as a bit like say 20 years ago, someone working with an old CRT screen and another person there adjusting the contrast and brightness controls going from one extreme to another thinking they're helping them see better.

Someone told me that they switched off javascript years ago by default and now I am finding I have to do that a lot more often.

Now with adverts, what I see some websites seem to be engaging in spammy behaviour and not just adverts alone. Rather than display adverts at the sides of the page where it scrolls with the rest of the page and so you see different ones I have seen websites display the same adverts on either sides of the page in a fixed position that flash and annoy/distract me, some appearing over the contents that either get in the way or expand the page making it jump. In other words interfering with the contents and my viewing of the page and they put the fixed videos that autoplay, so now it's easier without the aggravation by turning off the scripts as soon as I see a small dialogue with rest of the page darkening.

I don't mind adverts but not shoved in my face over the contents like with any fixed element.

To add to insult I am occasionally seeing, "Turn on Javascript for a better website experience" which is I turned it off in the first place.

Dare click that bookmark killer to kill unwanted fixed elements and I have seen some sites as of recent engage in scroll jacking and I thought taking away my right click away was bad.

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Yep, I agree right you on pretty much everything you say.

The lightbox, as its name suggests, was originally developed for zooming into picture thumbnails without requiring a page load. Then some turds started using them for popover messages (in sensible ways), and suddenly like wildfire the fucking things were everywhere for nagging.

I know exactly what you mean about the flickery jumpy fixed items.

It’s incredible to me that my internet connection now is literally 400 times as fast as the one I had 20 years ago, but these dipshit web devs and site operators have seen to it that performance is far worse than it was back then.

james_s:

--- Quote from: peter-h on April 12, 2020, 06:09:11 pm ---Without wishing to contradict you regarding the undesirability of adverts, how do you expect the forum which you make good use of to keep running?

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Frankly that's not my problem. I like to think that overall I add some value to the forum and bring in other eyeballs that may be influenced by ads that do not do anything for me. Maybe the online culture that expects everything to be free and ad supported is just going to have to change? I don't block the banner ads in this forum because they're not intrusive, they're passive, silent and they advertise legitimate companies. I've never (intentionally) clicked on one either though so am I stealing service by not buying products from the companies that advertise here? Actually I do buy boards from JLC PCB but not because I saw an ad banner, it's because someone pointed me to pcbshopper, JLC was the cheapest and I've been happy with the quality of their product.

Obviously ads do work in general or they wouldn't still be around, but I think it's on the advertisers to not be obnoxious about it. If ads hadn't gotten so obnoxious in the first place we'd see far fewer people blocking them. Popups, auto-play videos, garish animated banners, ads that play sounds, all this annoying stuff should be as unacceptable as letting yourself into someone's house and gluing a physical advertising banner to a prominent wall. They would notice the ad for sure, but it would also piss people off and lead to them taking precautions to prevent it. Finding creative new ways to be even more obnoxious is not the answer, but it's the approach that many advertisers have taken.

W9GFO:


--- Quote from: tooki on April 11, 2020, 07:48:02 pm ---
I also wish I could put out a bounty on anyone who uses a lightbox (the thing where the page dims and a modal dialog appears) to ask me to sign up for your newsletter. I guarantee, using one of those to nag me before I've even had a chance to read the page is the way to get me to not even consider signing up, no matter what.

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Man I hate those things. I automatically close them when they appear, never read them. Ever.

Kind of like how everything is "known to the state of California to cause cancer", it has no meaning anymore because it is everywhere. It gets ignored as soon as it is presented.

PlainName:

--- Quote ---What would be a "sustainable business model"?
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I haven't had to make one up for a forum so can't advise, but I can see from Youtube that building your life around adverts isn't it.

Maybe ask Dave :)

peter-h:
Almost nobody makes money on youtube, despite half the world desperately trying it :)

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