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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #375 on: January 18, 2026, 02:45:11 am »
e.g. https://eevblog.store/ does *NOT* go to the EEVblog  Store.

Yeah, but this one does: https://ic6do.com/CmkSqT_claim_gift_card.dll

(Deliberately left as a raw link to make it obvious that that's the actual link).
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #376 on: January 18, 2026, 02:51:43 am »
On the other SMF forum I read,

SMF?  There's a Twisted Sister fan forum?

 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #377 on: January 18, 2026, 08:51:37 am »
Me, I'd be happy if we could get an "insert HTML link" thingy like the other SMF forum I'm on has, so you don't have to type the stupid '=' and then insert the URL. But somehow I doubt that'll ever be fixed, and besides, it's such a picayune complaint.

Is the 'insert hyperlink' thing not that?

Not quite.
On the other SMF forum I read, their "insert hyperlink" button pops up a little dialog that asks for both the URL and the text of the link (already there if you highlight some text first), so you don't have to remember to type in a '=' and then paste the URL.

Small thing but it's a nice feature. I asked about adding that to this forum some time ago, but the response was basically "meh".

 :-//
You just paste the link and the SMF software converts it to link, for example, I don't need to use the "Insert Hyperlink" button to insert this link:

https://eevblog.store/

Same with Youtube links etc.
Beside custom link text (like Monkeh shows), the other case where manually creating the link is necessary is when a URL contains characters that the SMF parser assumes to be the end of the URL, resulting in a nonfunctional link. I forget off the top of my head which punctuation it is, but this pops up from time to time when people paste in a URL and don’t verify its clickability after posting.
 
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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #378 on: January 18, 2026, 08:54:11 am »
And that's why I'll never ever follow such a link !

Show me the real URL and let me make my own choice rather than what someone decides to name a link.  :horse:

So your browser doesn't show you the actual URL when you mouse over the link?
Every browser I've ever used does this.
You must be using something really primitive.
FYI, for anyone using iOS: press and hold a link to see the URL it targets, without it loading.
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #379 on: January 18, 2026, 09:46:01 am »
Me, I'd be happy if we could get an "insert HTML link" thingy like the other SMF forum I'm on has, so you don't have to type the stupid '=' and then insert the URL. But somehow I doubt that'll ever be fixed, and besides, it's such a picayune complaint.

Is the 'insert hyperlink' thing not that?

Not quite.
On the other SMF forum I read, their "insert hyperlink" button pops up a little dialog that asks for both the URL and the text of the link (already there if you highlight some text first), so you don't have to remember to type in a '=' and then paste the URL.

Small thing but it's a nice feature. I asked about adding that to this forum some time ago, but the response was basically "meh".

 :-//
You just paste the link and the SMF software converts it to link, for example, I don't need to use the "Insert Hyperlink" button to insert this link:

https://eevblog.store/

Same with Youtube links etc.
Beside custom link text (like Monkeh shows), the other case where manually creating the link is necessary is when a URL contains characters that the SMF parser assumes to be the end of the URL, resulting in a nonfunctional link. I forget off the top of my head which punctuation it is, but this pops up from time to time when people paste in a URL and don’t verify its clickability after posting.
Typically a ? will break a URL and a / will also.

For those of us that have been around a while we check our posts and any URL's posted to see if the URL is broken as it's easily spotted as some of it is highlighted and some of it not.
Easily corrected by using the Insert Hyperlink button below the Italics one.  ;)
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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #380 on: January 18, 2026, 10:57:39 am »
What's the problem with typing
Code: [Select]
[url=https://link]text[/url]?
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #381 on: January 18, 2026, 11:35:36 am »
What's the problem with typing
Code: [Select]
[url=https://link]text[/url]?

Typing?

Quite often I've done that and got the closing brace or something in the wrong place so it doesn't work (and looks bad).
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #382 on: January 18, 2026, 12:56:09 pm »
What's the problem with typing
Code: [Select]
[url=https://link]text[/url]?

Typing?

Quite often I've done that and got the closing brace or something in the wrong place so it doesn't work (and looks bad).
Skill/technique issue.

Type the skeleton first:

Code: [Select]
[url=][/url]

Then fill in the values.
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #383 on: January 18, 2026, 01:02:55 pm »
I’ll tell you where GUI tools to help enter links would be a godsend: on mobile, where text editing suuuuucks and necessary punctuation for bb syntax are hidden two layers deep in the on-screen keyboards…
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #384 on: January 18, 2026, 01:05:55 pm »
I’ll tell you where GUI tools to help enter links would be a godsend: on mobile, where text editing suuuuucks and necessary punctuation for bb syntax are hidden two layers deep in the on-screen keyboards…
That's right. I've never considered posting to a forum from a smartphone. That'd be a royal PITA indeed.
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #385 on: January 18, 2026, 01:38:35 pm »
What's the problem with typing
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[url=https://link]text[/url]?

Typing?

Quite often I've done that and got the closing brace or something in the wrong place so it doesn't work (and looks bad).
Have you tried using the forum's WYSIWYG editor?

Click . Now you can post a link by clicking, . Enter the URL and click Ok. Place the text cursor in the middle of the URL in the editor and replace it with any text you like. It won't damage the URL. Post as usual.
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #386 on: January 18, 2026, 02:46:52 pm »
What's the problem with typing
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[url=https://link]text[/url]?

Typing?

Quite often I've done that and got the closing brace or something in the wrong place so it doesn't work (and looks bad).
Have you tried using the forum's WYSIWYG editor?

Click . Now you can post a link by clicking, . Enter the URL and click Ok. Place the text cursor in the middle of the URL in the editor and replace it with any text you like. It won't damage the URL. Post as usual.

Yes, always use that. But it doesn't do the '=' thing and you gotta drop your cursor in exactly the right place to insert it, then skip over a brace to write the text. Any human typing is prone to errors, so no surprise it sometimes goes wrong.

Just look at the many fuckups with quotes, and that's the same kind of thing. Only sensible fix is the one the Kid is hankering after: an edit box for the URL and another for the description. Even then you'll like spell something wrong or past the wrong link, but at least it will be a link with description :)
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #387 on: January 18, 2026, 03:31:25 pm »
I’ll tell you where GUI tools to help enter links would be a godsend: on mobile, where text editing suuuuucks and necessary punctuation for bb syntax are hidden two layers deep in the on-screen keyboards…
That's right. I've never considered posting to a forum from a smartphone. That'd be a royal PITA indeed.
Moreover, not just on a phone, but on a tablet, which is fundamentally a fantastic browsing device.
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #388 on: January 18, 2026, 03:34:06 pm »
What's the problem with typing
Code: [Select]
[url=https://link]text[/url]?

Typing?

Quite often I've done that and got the closing brace or something in the wrong place so it doesn't work (and looks bad).
Have you tried using the forum's WYSIWYG editor?

Click . Now you can post a link by clicking, . Enter the URL and click Ok. Place the text cursor in the middle of the URL in the editor and replace it with any text you like. It won't damage the URL. Post as usual.

Yes, always use that. But it doesn't do the '=' thing and you gotta drop your cursor in exactly the right place to insert it, then skip over a brace to write the text. Any human typing is prone to errors, so no surprise it sometimes goes wrong.
You missed the “WYSIWYG editor” bit.

It absolutely does do the “= thing”: type the link text, select it, and then press the hyperlink button. A dialog pops up for the URL.

Unfortunately the WYSIWYG editor handles quotes horribly, so I gave up on it long ago.
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #389 on: January 18, 2026, 03:39:32 pm »
That's right. I've never considered posting to a forum from a smartphone. That'd be a royal PITA indeed.
Moreover, not just on a phone, but on a tablet, which is fundamentally a fantastic browsing device.
Yes, browsing. Not typing.
 
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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #390 on: January 18, 2026, 10:39:21 pm »
I’ll tell you where GUI tools to help enter links would be a godsend: on mobile, where text editing suuuuucks and necessary punctuation for bb syntax are hidden two layers deep in the on-screen keyboards…
That's right. I've never considered posting to a forum from a smartphone. That'd be a royal PITA indeed.

I almost never use the forum on my phone.
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #391 on: January 18, 2026, 10:53:14 pm »
I’ll tell you where GUI tools to help enter links would be a godsend: on mobile, where text editing suuuuucks and necessary punctuation for bb syntax are hidden two layers deep in the on-screen keyboards…
That's right. I've never considered posting to a forum from a smartphone. That'd be a royal PITA indeed.

I almost never use the forum on my phone.
I sometimes do (like right now), and I'd still leave if it was changed to Discourse or anything other than perhaps phpBB, or maybe older vBulletin. SMF is fine, works without JS and has decent information density. Can't say the same of most other forums these days...
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #392 on: January 18, 2026, 11:01:16 pm »
Only sensible fix is the one the Kid is hankering after: an edit box for the URL and another for the description.

(In other words, a li'l dialog that pops up.)

All right.
Now we just have to convince Dave that this is something worth doing ...

Another argument in favor of this:
In addition to the very good reasons already given here (especially for non-desktop device users), what about n00bs who want to put in a link to something in their post? When they click that "Insert Hyperlink" button and it inserts [url] ... [/url], what if they have no idea they need to type a '=' in addition to the URL inside that first set of square brackets? What they see after clicking that button gives them no clue here.

Kind of a left-handed way to handle such a task, especially in 2026 AD, seems to me.

I'm sure this has happened more than once.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2026, 11:08:06 pm by Analog Kid »
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #393 on: January 18, 2026, 11:07:58 pm »
Only sensible fix is the one the Kid is hankering after: an edit box for the URL and another for the description.

(In other words, a li'l dialog that pops up.)

All right.
Now we just have to convince Dave that this is something worth doing ...

Don't use it often enough to be bothered by the current setup, to be honest. Sorry :)
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #394 on: January 18, 2026, 11:09:07 pm »
Only sensible fix is the one the Kid is hankering after: an edit box for the URL and another for the description.

(In other words, a li'l dialog that pops up.)

All right.
Now we just have to convince Dave that this is something worth doing ...

Don't use it often enough to be bothered by the current setup, to be honest. Sorry :)

What the hell kind of argument is that?

"I don't use it much, so you don't need to either"?
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #395 on: January 19, 2026, 01:07:32 am »
Don't use it often enough to be bothered by the current setup, to be honest. Sorry :)

What the hell kind of argument is that?

"I don't use it much, so you don't need to either"?

He did not say "so you don't need to either".

I agree with his point. The current setup isn't something I use a lot. Perhaps it could be better. I'm not against that but if it is it just won't be a great benefit to me.

The original revival of this topic was very vague on detail as to how a proposed change to Discord would benefit members. I objected to proposal for change without clearly describing the benefits. That's the proper way to advocate and influence change. I don't use Discord so I needed to have it spelled out. Otherwise I'm content with the current setup.
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #396 on: January 19, 2026, 01:24:51 am »
Man these names are confusing.  Discourse vs Discord :P  I probably shouldn't have mentioned the latter @Wilfred, I think you meant the former.
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #397 on: January 19, 2026, 08:39:25 am »
More than 5 years later my opinion hasn't really changed all that much.

If a migration happens, i would still vastly prefer a proper forumsoftware. I still like Xenforo, at least the one i am very active in. But i also see that Xenforo development has somewhat stalled. But in that regard it isn't much different that SMF :P
My favorite aspect of XenForo is it's seamless scaling from portrait-mode smartphone screens to wide PC screens, and no reliance on a *completely* different mobile view.

My main gripe with SMF is the image upload and the quoting system.
Just pasting images from your clipboard to the forum is such an easy way of handling images.

The KiCAD Forum is one example of a Discourse forum that i know. And it's usability is atrocious. Just alone that it doesn't properly paginate and has an "endless" scrolling overview is crap.

EDIT: And if a micration to Discord, of all places, would happen, very likely me and a lot of other people will be out. Discord is a blight on the internet. It has killed so many open forums and essentially removed them, and all their accumulated information, from the internet. Discord is a closed system that you can only access with their client, and only after you have registered and are invited to the actual community. It's essentially a chat service on steroids.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2026, 08:43:08 am by Ranayna »
 
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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #398 on: January 19, 2026, 08:53:15 am »
I’ll tell you where GUI tools to help enter links would be a godsend: on mobile, where text editing suuuuucks and necessary punctuation for bb syntax are hidden two layers deep in the on-screen keyboards…
That's right. I've never considered posting to a forum from a smartphone. That'd be a royal PITA indeed.

I almost never use the forum on my phone.

I used to during the tapatalk era. But let's not rehash that discourse too
 

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Re: Migrating the forum to Discourse
« Reply #399 on: January 19, 2026, 08:55:46 am »
Perhaps a forum like this one looks old-fashioned. But it allows me to find topics and access all the information related to them.
I am a guest on several Discord servers (because these companies don't have a decent forum) – and all of them, really all of them, are a disaster. There's no chance of getting the available information in a concentrated form like here. That's why the same questions are asked over and over and over and over again. Discord is so annoying.... If EEVBlog were on Discord, many valuable posters would definitely be out.
 
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