Migrating the forum to Discourse

[PlainName]

Just pasting images from your clipboard to the forum is such an easy way of handling images.

I think it's fortunate that we don't have that ease here. Even now we see huge unviewable images embedded in messages (the poster has no thought as to how others will see the page but, hey, it's easy to insert). Even decently appropriate and sizes images in more than a few comments can make a page too much hassle to bother reading.

And suggesting that posters will be careful about sizing and stuff isn't a goer. Even now they perform a tedious workaround in order to circumvent the clickable thumbnail thing so they can foist the full glory on passing viewers.

[shapirus]

Just pasting images from your clipboard to the forum is such an easy way of handling images.

I think it's fortunate that we don't have that ease here. Even now we see huge unviewable images embedded in messages (the poster has no thought as to how others will see the page but, hey, it's easy to insert). Even decently appropriate and sizes images in more than a few comments can make a page too much hassle to bother reading.

And suggesting that posters will be careful about sizing and stuff isn't a goer. Even now they perform a tedious workaround in order to circumvent the clickable thumbnail thing so they can foist the full glory on passing viewers.

Right, but there's still a bug with image handling here, which is a separate issue. One image? Works fine. Multiple images? Things begin getting screwed up, ordering breaks etc.
Fine if they all go as thumbnails below text. Embedding them properly is more difficult. One workaround is attach all as thumbnails, save post, then open all images in new tabs, start editing post and insert them inline using the img element.

[PlainName]

Yes, it would be better without those bugs

[tautech]

More than 5 years later my opinion hasn't really changed all that much.

If a migration happens, i would still vastly prefer a proper forumsoftware. I still like Xenforo, at least the one i am very active in. But i also see that Xenforo development has somewhat stalled. But in that regard it isn't much different that SMF
My favorite aspect of XenForo is it's seamless scaling from portrait-mode smartphone screens to wide PC screens, and no reliance on a *completely* different mobile view.

My main gripe with SMF is the image upload and the quoting system.
Just pasting images from your clipboard to the forum is such an easy way of handling images.

The KiCAD Forum is one example of a Discourse forum that i know. And it's usability is atrocious. Just alone that it doesn't properly paginate and has an "endless" scrolling overview is crap.

EDIT: And if a micration to Discord, of all places, would happen, very likely me and a lot of other people will be out. Discord is a blight on the internet. It has killed so many open forums and essentially removed them, and all their accumulated information, from the internet. Discord is a closed system that you can only access with their client, and only after you have registered and are invited to the actual community. It's essentially a chat service on steroids.

Xenforo is a POS WRT remembering what threads you posted in.....get it wrong every time and only take you to the thread but never the latest post. 

SMF is in no way perfect but gets that right even for a thread that's 10 yrs old.

[tautech]

Just pasting images from your clipboard to the forum is such an easy way of handling images.

I think it's fortunate that we don't have that ease here. Even now we see huge unviewable images embedded in messages (the poster has no thought as to how others will see the page but, hey, it's easy to insert). Even decently appropriate and sizes images in more than a few comments can make a page too much hassle to bother reading.

And suggesting that posters will be careful about sizing and stuff isn't a goer. Even now they perform a tedious workaround in order to circumvent the clickable thumbnail thing so they can foist the full glory on passing viewers.

Right, but there's still a bug with image handling here, which is a separate issue. One image? Works fine. Multiple images? Things begin getting screwed up, ordering breaks etc.
Fine if they all go as thumbnails below text. Embedding them properly is more difficult. One workaround is attach all as thumbnails, save post, then open all images in new tabs, start editing post and insert them inline using the img element.

Yup long standing SMF bug but the workaround is simple, don't use the first attachment and it works as it should.

[Ranayna]

More than 5 years later my opinion hasn't really changed all that much.

If a migration happens, i would still vastly prefer a proper forumsoftware. I still like Xenforo, at least the one i am very active in. But i also see that Xenforo development has somewhat stalled. But in that regard it isn't much different that SMF
My favorite aspect of XenForo is it's seamless scaling from portrait-mode smartphone screens to wide PC screens, and no reliance on a *completely* different mobile view.

My main gripe with SMF is the image upload and the quoting system.
Just pasting images from your clipboard to the forum is such an easy way of handling images.

The KiCAD Forum is one example of a Discourse forum that i know. And it's usability is atrocious. Just alone that it doesn't properly paginate and has an "endless" scrolling overview is crap.

EDIT: And if a micration to Discord, of all places, would happen, very likely me and a lot of other people will be out. Discord is a blight on the internet. It has killed so many open forums and essentially removed them, and all their accumulated information, from the internet. Discord is a closed system that you can only access with their client, and only after you have registered and are invited to the actual community. It's essentially a chat service on steroids.

Xenforo is a POS WRT remembering what threads you posted in.....get it wrong every time and only take you to the thread but never the latest post. 

SMF is in no way perfect but gets that right even for a thread that's 10 yrs old.

That is in part an inherent issue.
If you click on the notification for a thread, and new posts have caused another page to be created in the time since the notification was triggered, you haven't seen it all, unless you actually visit the following pages. Thus you won't get new notifications. I would not be surprised if there are workarounds for that though. And that does not affect notifications that are triggered if you are quoted or mentioned.
I am rarely participating in extremely active threads here, so i am not actually aware of how SMF handles that.
I mostly use the "Show new replies to your posts" link at the top, and XenForo has something very similar.
EDIT: This section doesn't apply to me here in this forum anyway, since i don't get notifications at all. So disregard this in respect to this Forum. The next section is still relevant though /EDIT

The time for how long the forum remembers your last seen post should be configurable by an admin. I had that discussion in a XenForo driven forum. The admin did not want to increase the time too much, because he was expecting database bloat if the last visited postition is never purged.

[magic]

Right, but there's still a bug with image handling here, which is a separate issue. One image? Works fine. Multiple images? Things begin getting screwed up, ordering breaks etc.

I believe gnif tracked it down to a problem with the storage backend, replaced it with another one and the issues went away. Have you seen them in the last year?

[shapirus]

Right, but there's still a bug with image handling here, which is a separate issue. One image? Works fine. Multiple images? Things begin getting screwed up, ordering breaks etc.

I believe gnif tracked it down to a problem with the storage backend, replaced it with another one and the issues went away. Have you seen them in the last year?

I've observed no change in this behavior. Created some posts with images quite recently and still had to fiddle around to preserve proper ordering. Previewing posts with (inline) images doesn't work properly too, just like it didn't work ever since I started posting here.