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EEVblog:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 30, 2020, 12:34:10 am ---Finally more recently I read that the struggling Yahoo was closing down groups altogether, at that point it no longer mattered.
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Yes, it's gone completely, erased from existence  >:(
I spent more than a decade as the top poster on the OzCanyons Yahoo group before someone set up a Facebook group and it slowly died. Now the entire thing is gone, forgotten to history.
ataradov:
The flat UI trend is easy to explain. Graphics cards can draw filled rectangles really fast. So it is easy if UI is just flat rectangles.

Doing 3D control elements is also hard on 4K and 8K monitors, since  your elements need to scale appropriately now. And again, filled rectangles scale easily.
BU508A:

--- Quote from: ddavidebor on March 29, 2020, 02:59:35 pm ---I have had this thought for a few years. Wouldn't it make sense to migrate the forum to the Discourse platform?

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Simple answer:

NO

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Brumby:
I saw the original post (at ~1am here) and my first reaction was  "No" - but I thought it best to sleep on it.

The subsequent responses have covered many points of concern I had - whitespace, continuous loading, drive by posts and so on.  I am consistently bewildered by the claims of "improved usability" where it is just buzzwords dropped around something new which doesn't actually make things better.  It's just "new".  (BTW ... age, in itself, is NOT a reason to discard anything - IMHO).

There is, however, one aspect I have not seen mentioned - and that is one of discipline.

It does take a (tiny) bit of effort navigating here and that may require some measure of thought - to understand how to package what you want to say in a post.  As has been said above, there is a lot of well thought out material here.  What would be absolutely crippling to the value offered here is to make the platform so "engaging" that a flood of useless crap washes in, burying the gems.

So, I would suggest that if people really want to engage with those who have an extremely diverse range of skill and experience, then develop the discipline to learn how to do that in the framework that currently exists ... and works.  If someone does not want to go to the "trouble" of working within an established environment, then I don't think I want to go to the trouble of pandering to their displeasure in having to learn.

I say this not as a put down to change, since adapting is one of the key characteristics of success - but that so much engineering is built from old, boring basics and putting yourself out to understand these through the simple application of oneself will serve you well.

In short, if you can't find the discipline to work within the current framework, then maybe you should avoid engineering pursuits.
james_s:

--- Quote from: ataradov on March 30, 2020, 12:50:59 am ---The flat UI trend is easy to explain. Graphics cards can draw filled rectangles really fast. So it is easy if UI is just flat rectangles.

Doing 3D control elements is also hard on 4K and 8K monitors, since  your elements need to scale appropriately now. And again, filled rectangles scale easily.

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Graphics cards can create textured 3D shapes easily now too so that's not really an issue. Also there is a very wide space between the super flat whitewashed thing that was all the rage a few years ago and Vista-style 3D everything. Even subtle visual cues like raised buttons, shadows and shading can make something far more usable. A raised button with a shadow is no harder to scale than a link that is just text on a white background. These are not insurmountable technical hurdles, I expect software to get better and more refined with time, not worse.

Also the scaling thing is a non-issue anyway. I have a high resolution monitor because I want to display a lot of things on it at once. If the UI simply scales to make everything bigger then it negates most of the reason of having a high resolution display in the first place. A 4k display ought to be plenty to tile a PCB layout, one or more datasheets and a BOM for example all visible at once. About the only time I ever maximize one program to fill the whole screen is if I'm using my computer to watch TV/movies. Otherwise I typically use about 1/4-1/2 of the display area per active window depending on what I'm doing.
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