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SiliconWizard:
Sure the term is kinda dumb, but hey you never know how dumb all these HR terms can get anyway. We probably ain't seen nothing yet.
But anyway, what the OP describes is a pretty common management technique.

You can't blame companies for doing that. They need to secure their future and make sure the know-how is passed from senior engineers to junior ones.
But management is a tricky business and it's often hard to do this in the best way possible, not annoying the heck out of seniors and making them feel like they do all the work with no recognition, while working themselves on being replaced. That's an uncomfortable position to be in and most managers don't know how to handle it. It's tricky.

Add to the mix HR people that only see all this as written objectives and figures in Excel sheets, making managers' lives every bit as miserable as the senior engineers' lives that are subject to that.

Of course some people actually like teaching others and passing their knowledge on, and these will be fine with it.
Others do not.
But ultimately, when you reach "senior" status in any company, it's usually time to reflect on what you want to do next and act on it. If you play it all passively, you'll get miserable, because getting senior as an employee doesn't mean you've reached your goals and can rest - it usually means you need to move on to something or somewhere else, otherwise it's a pretty sure path to misery.

Gyro:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on February 18, 2023, 08:31:22 pm ---
--- Quote from: Gyro on February 18, 2023, 06:42:46 pm ---
--- Quote from: nigelwright7557 on February 18, 2023, 03:30:31 pm ---The answer to it is to refuse to do it. You are an engineer not a teacher.
If the "new" engineer wants to learn then go to Uni like the rest of us did.
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Oh come on, what fantasy world are you living in? University gives you the basics. You recruit graduates on the basis of potential and train them up to useful and productive engineers. Staff development is the price you pay for your company having a future.


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No no no.

You wait for your competition to train them, and then poach them.

Foolproof. Isn't it?

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The good ones are going to want ongoing career and skills development, the others, you don't want. If you don't have a decent system in place they'll leave again, or never join you in the first place. Then you're stuck with hiring the ones with, oh must be 30'odd by now, companies on their CVs.  ;)

It's a competitive world if you want the best.

Gregg:
In reference to grindstones, the best advice is: "illegitimi non corundum"

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: Gyro on February 18, 2023, 09:56:23 pm ---The good ones are going to want ongoing career and skills development, the others, you don't want. If you don't have a decent system in place they'll leave again, or never join you in the first place. Then you're stuck with hiring the ones with, oh must be 30'odd by now, companies on their CVs.  ;)

It's a competitive world if you want the best.

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I was lucky (but I think I biassed things in my favour) to mostly work for good companies on interesting topics.

I'm not aware of having worked with anybody with so many companies on their CV, unless they were contractors. In the latter case, I didn't care, but I did look at the companies and experience.

pcprogrammer:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on February 18, 2023, 08:36:14 pm ---Just to make sure that doesn't get bigfoot22'ed, here's an archival copy...

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 :-DD :-DD

You made a new verb on a Saturday  :palm:


--- Quote from: tggzzz on February 18, 2023, 08:27:54 pm ---A modern truism is that "all nouns can be verbed". It is Saturday, therefore I dislike that.

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I stumbled on the deleting phenomenon only yesterday due to what was written in the last Sherlocked thread, and had a good laugh. It does proof how strange he is. bigfoot22 that is. I wonder why he blew up. Sure there was a some stab and counter stab going on between him and others, including me, but not that bad, was it?

Sorry for going off topic, but hey nonsense thread anyway.

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