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tggzzz:

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--- Quote from: Faringdon on February 19, 2023, 09:25:25 pm ---
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Thanks, years ago i had one that would do 5 mins of soldering, then revert to making a big solder pool lake on the ESD mat, or going on his mobile phone.
But He was lauded as the new Messiah by the company owner.
The owner could see him distrubing me all the time, but encouraged him to pick my brains out at every  opportunity...my work inevitably suffered delays as a result of being his "servant" mentor, and the owner would lambast me for that.

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When you find yourself in situations like that, just run away. Whatever the reason - even if you are partially responsible, be it due to your behavior, not setting limits, whatever... this can't end well.
When a company does that, it's usually to show you that you don't matter anymore. Get the hint and go.

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I don't disagree, but that's not always possible. Classic issues are wife/children/parents who can't be uprooted, and geography of course.
robint:
cant say in my umpteen years in the  trade I ve heard that term?  Seems like a hypothesis IMHO.

What I have seen seen is some cheap charlie hirings using the milk round, where a dozen say bodies are trawled to fill slots fully expecting to get a wastage of 50% in the first years - the smart guys realise they signed up to a dead outfit full of pensionable treadwaters obstructing any initiative.  Been there got out pdq.
Ive also seen these uninspiring remainders (NAAFI types) who just slither along on minimum effort other that cosy relations with superiors.  Amazing how far up the tree these slugs can climb in time.
tggzzz:

--- Quote from: robint on February 20, 2023, 09:00:35 am ---cant say in my umpteen years in the  trade I ve heard that term?  Seems like a hypothesis IMHO.

What I have seen seen is some cheap charlie hirings using the milk round, where a dozen say bodies are trawled to fill slots fully expecting to get a wastage of 50% in the first years - the smart guys realise they signed up to a dead outfit full of pensionable treadwaters obstructing any initiative.  Been there got out pdq.
Ive also seen these uninspiring remainders (NAAFI types) who just slither along on minimum effort other that cosy relations with superiors.  Amazing how far up the tree these slugs can climb in time.

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That seems like the GEC/Marconi milk round behaviour, back in the 70s.

Put in ~6 CVs, offered ~12 interviews (one implying the interview was a formality!), some at sites with 200 vacancies.

Went to half a dozen interviews. They were useful because they enabled me to calibrate what I was looking for in a job, and which places would be good to work.  Not GEC/Macaroni, of course.
Faringdon:
At this one place, many years ago....they literally handcuffed a newly qualified engineer to me, and told me to go through a power supply design with him......and only advance the design at his pace of understanding and no faster, and also garantee to the customer that it could be done within 4 weeks from scratch to finished PCB and BOM  and schem. It just wasnt working.
The guy wasnt getting it, wasnt picking it up quick enough.
I was bascially like his "slave" mentor.
Has anybody else done this kind of thing?

I  think such "handcuffing" doesnt work in SMPS design.....SMPS design isnt "A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J, DONE"
....its more

"A,B,C,D, go back to A and tweak a bit, E, F, go back to C and tweak a bit, then to E and tweak there, G,H".............you know what i mean.

It  just not beneficial to try and  handcuff a new grad to an engineer and hence clone the experienced engineer in this way.
Has anybody else  encountered  this kind of thing?

Literally trying to CLONE an EE by handcuffing a new grad to him/her
tggzzz:

--- Quote from: Faringdon on February 22, 2023, 11:38:28 am ---At this one place, many years ago....they literally handcuffed a newly qualified engineer to me, and told me to go through a power supply design with him......

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Was it his left wrist to your right wrist, or vice versa?
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