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gregariz:
With regard to Chinese stuff being junk - alot of it is, but I find for most common electronics it seems to do the job as long as you are not rough with it.
With regard to the idea of 'facts'. I try simply to not come into the forum any longer to comment on things like multimeters and oscilloscopes. The trend I found was that people were getting all bent up over specifications. And that left me scratching my head over who needed to measure most of them. Over the last 20 years I have found I can probably do the vast majority of tasks using the commonly spec'ed base instruments. People are/were giving advice to beginners and hobbyists to buy higher end test gear. So I find their reality or 'facts' are not mine so its simply not a conversation worth having.
Simon:
--- Quote from: Mechatrommer on February 19, 2012, 05:40:51 am ---
--- Quote ---People are/were giving advice to beginners and hobbyists to buy higher end test gear. So I find their reality or 'facts' are not mine so its simply not a conversation worth having.
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so that is your politically correct mind saying. different people with different need. you should visit metrologycal and/or calibration and measurement dept sometime and how they will insist on... well, not high end gear, but... super super super high end gear. and some people live by it, pay for it, and get more money from it. just to let you know, i have the same reality as yours (normal gears work for me) ;) but the other rationale is, if you have better gear, you will have better result (usually) thats why people try to give better advice, i also learnt this from experience with my other tools, esp tools like hammer, jigsaw etc not ee related.
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he makes a valid point, there are some people who think they are showing off by suggesting to someone clearly asking advice on basic gear to go get the latest top end bit of kit. This is partly taking the micky because they don't like begginers because they think they are part of the elite and that is all they want to meet here and partly just not being in the real world. The hope is that other more "normal" members offer more sensible suggestions.
Simon:
--- Quote from: vk6zgo on February 19, 2012, 03:59:21 am ---It is a trap,though,as sometimes you make comment based on a well known fact about Electronics,& are amazed that not only do others not know it,but will challenge it as though it is just a matter of '"opinion".
Do you try to set them right,or just forget it & not follow it up?
Or someone quite knowledgeable,will phrase something strangely,& when you try to clear it up for an OP who may be a beginner,they get upset,& reply in an aggressive manner.
OK,we all probably do this sometimes,but a few people make a habit of it.
Then there are the people who are just "grumpy",& are quite entertaining with it! ;D
The question remains:-
When do you back away & leave them to it?
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usually politely putting people right works or a general consensus of replies will clear the matter up. Usually stating things politely and not arrogantly will keep things at the right level. The problem is when people who know what they are talking about present facts arrogantly because this is what someone who does not know what they are talking about would do to give the impression they are right, again hopefully people can be reasonable and yes we have a few arrogant members and they can be entertaining if you sit back and let them get on with it without taking it to heart.
BBQdChips:
--- Quote from: Mechatrommer on February 19, 2012, 05:40:51 am --- but the other rationale is, if you have better gear, you will have better result (usually) thats why people try to give better advice, i also learnt this from experience with my other tools, esp tools like hammer, jigsaw etc not ee related.
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Since when is a hammer not EE Kit?
r90s:
--- Quote from: BBQdChips on April 12, 2012, 04:48:28 pm ---
--- Quote from: Mechatrommer on February 19, 2012, 05:40:51 am --- but the other rationale is, if you have better gear, you will have better result (usually) thats why people try to give better advice, i also learnt this from experience with my other tools, esp tools like hammer, jigsaw etc not ee related.
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Since when is a hammer not EE Kit?
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Yep, You gotta whack those electrons to keep them in line........ 8)
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