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| MK14:
--- Quote from: Hero999 on July 22, 2016, 10:55:59 pm ---The Brexit thing is ongoing and continuously changing, so no, it's nowhere near run its course. I work at a company which does testing, mostly for defence but also commercial sectors and it does get public funding. The UK's decision to leave the EU will affect us. Not immediately but some time in the future. At the moment the political instability in Turkey is more of an issue for us as some of our customers are Turkish. I would prefer not to start a thread to discuss this, as I prefer to keep my presence here anonymous and don't want to reveal too much about where I work. --- End quote --- There is a big difference between saying (hypothetically), the special ultra high frequency, very low noise transistors, which are vital to our product line, and manufactured in Turkey, may become unavailable. Help me please ? Which is probably fine by Dave's guidelines. But discussing the possible "troubles/instability" in Turkey, would just be another political thread, with the dangers, as mention by myself and others, of going out of control and might need significant moderation efforts. |
| jitter:
Agreed, this is a technical forum, not a political forum. Surely there are political forums (or should that be "fora"?) around that those that feel the need to discuss political subjects can turn to? The EEVblog just isn't one of them... |
| Simon:
The thread had indeed run its course and was unbelievably civil considering the topic but ultimately it had stopped being very useful. For all the people not wanting to have seen it at all I do have to point out that the FTDI gate thread was not much more useful as little of it concentrated on electronics it was about the morals of a company who happened to be making electronics and was not about their products or how to use them. But the FTDI gate thread was allowed to go on and on and I received far more reports on it per page count than I did on the brexit topic. But ultimately the topic had to be locked as it was becoming superfluous and severely deviating from its original topic. I think we had to have the topic because otherwise it would just be something that would have broken into other threads if it had been suppressed immediately. We've all had our say, now we can carry on with electronics. As has been said above the situation is hardly over as there is a lot of turmoil in this country at the moment and heaven knows how our various industries are going to be affected. Again for all of those who hated it and didn't want to see it well don't look at it. If we all got our say about which thread we don't want to see and therefore should be removed there would be no forum left even fully electronic stuff. |
| PlainName:
--- Quote ---Surely there are political forums (or should that be "fora"?) around that those that feel the need to discuss --- End quote --- Sure there are, but the people involved in the discussion here aren't going to up sticks and go over there (registering an account, etc) just to post a pithy two-liner. Just as a bunch of blokes down the pub aren't going to walk over to the council building to bang on about council stuff, and then take as stroll along the river to whine about shopping trollies being tipped in the canal, etc. Like it or not, this is a community and people tend to discuss all sorts of things with they acquaintances. It is actually like a busy cafe or pub in the science museum. Everyone is there for technical reasons, but they have a diverse range of views on everything. What you're suggesting is that this place turns into a library - any noise not strictly necessary for the main purpose is forbidden. So instead of people looking forward to coming here to interact with like minded techies and geeks, they will drift to other places where they can have such things and enjoy themselves. The problems with allowing that isn't that the place gets diluted or that non-techies roll up to discuss mumsnet rubbish, but that the discussions get heated and people fall out, hold grudges, etc. Seems Simon and Dave have a handle on that, so why should there be a problem. As people keep saying, no-one is forcing you to read the stuff (I haven't, and it affects me). |
| jitter:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on July 23, 2016, 10:41:55 am --- --- Quote ---Surely there are political forums (or should that be "fora"?) around that those that feel the need to discuss --- End quote --- Sure there are, but the people involved in the discussion here aren't going to up sticks and go over there (registering an account, etc) just to post a pithy two-liner. Just as a bunch of blokes down the pub aren't going to walk over to the council building to bang on about council stuff, and then take as stroll along the river to whine about shopping trollies being tipped in the canal, etc. --- End quote --- Hah, good point. --- Quote ---Like it or not, this is a community and people tend to discuss all sorts of things with they acquaintances. It is actually like a busy cafe or pub in the science museum. Everyone is there for technical reasons, but they have a diverse range of views on everything. What you're suggesting is that this place turns into a library - any noise not strictly necessary for the main purpose is forbidden. So instead of people looking forward to coming here to interact with like minded techies and geeks, they will drift to other places where they can have such things and enjoy themselves. --- End quote --- You're reading more into my remark than I meant to say. I'm not suggesting anything other than that those that feel the need to discuss political topics in depth may look elsewhere. I'm not saying that the odd remark about this or that political should be banned on this forum, but lengthy political threads IMHO don't suit a forum like this. --- Quote ---The problems with allowing that isn't that the place gets diluted or that non-techies roll up to discuss mumsnet rubbish, but that the discussions get heated and people fall out, hold grudges, etc. Seems Simon and Dave have a handle on that, so why should there be a problem. As people keep saying, no-one is forcing you to read the stuff (I haven't, and it affects me). --- End quote --- Oh, I have had my say in the Brexit thread, and then I walked away from it weeks ago. But it is no surprise to me that the moderators decided to put a lid on it, and I fully support their decision. |
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