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| Fraser:
I will risk a verbal beating here, but how about changing absolutely nothing ...... This forum appears to work well and is the best I have been a member of. From the user perspective the issue of renegade members is very rare indeed. There have been some exceptions that got all our attention, but is it really warranted to make membership and login a more complex process ? This recent dispute with Angrybird seems to have generated an awful lot more comment in this thread than it truly deserves. Compared the the MJC incident, it is a non event ! I am now putting on my Kevlar helmet and ducking for cover ;D Fraser |
| Cerebus:
--- Quote from: Fraser on March 11, 2020, 01:21:07 pm ---I will risk a verbal beating here, but how about changing absolutely nothing ...... This forum appears to work well and is the best I have been a member of. From the user perspective the issue of renegade members is very rare indeed. There have been some exceptions that got all our attention, but is it really warranted to make membership and login a more complex process ? This recent dispute with Angrybird seems to have generated an awful lot more comment in this thread than it truly deserves. Compared the the MJC incident, it is a non event ! I am now putting on my Kevlar helmet and ducking for cover ;D Fraser --- End quote --- I think that the only change that is desirable would be one that made it harder for the wholesale creation/rapid turnover of accounts a la 'grumpy tit-puppet'. That's really for moderatorial comfort and, to a lesser extent, keeping the fools out of the hair of the rest of us. The problem is that it's difficult for the mods to ban someone malicious and persistent, and keep them effectively banned without a lot of manual work and vigilance on the mod's behalf. Beyond that I'd agree that there's no real need for change. |
| Simon:
Yes I don't think there is anything to change. The whole point of moderation is that it requires manual intervention and decision making. |
| Brumby:
--- Quote from: Simon on March 11, 2020, 02:19:39 pm ---Yes I don't think there is anything to change. The whole point of moderation is that it requires manual intervention and decision making. --- End quote --- Absolutely (IMHO). Automate, codify or otherwise put a defined process or structure in place and some people will count it as a challenge to circumvent. Human assessment allows for the subtleties to be worked through on a case-by-case basis as and when they present themselves. Automation requires a lot of design work to define and deal with as many of these subtleties up front as possible and/or modify the process as experience dictates. This can end up being a massive maintenance burden, especially since you could expect something that might be complex to implement in code (with potential for ongoing refinements) but can be resolved by a human in a minute or two. Also, relying on an automated system can result in a level of trust that is unwise. As it has been said - You cannot create an idiot proof system, since idiots are so creative. As for those who cause discussions like this - I have no doubt they are grinning from ear to ear with every word written as a result of their efforts. They would be ecstatic to see changes made as a result of their behaviour. This is why I walk away once they have shown their hand and why I'm happy for the current moderation process to stand. They aren't worth my time for anything more than clicking on the "Report" button. |
| ebastler:
--- Quote from: Brumby on March 11, 2020, 03:18:17 pm ---Absolutely (IMHO). --- End quote --- ::) Thanks for making me smile, whether that was an intended pun or not. :) |
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