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Modern "music" is shite

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John B:
The entire framing of the proposition is wrong. The problem is not modernity or some downward trend in the overall technical and theoretical complexity of music, but rather what is presented through the major channels as being mainstream.

We live in the goldenist of golden times of music. You just have to search around for it.

Most of the criticisms of modern music could also be applied to "the good stuff" of years gone by. The most common popular music has always been equal tempered, diatonic and rhythmically based on powers of 2.

John B:
A good analogy - think of the greatest achievements in electronics, the greatest engineers and the skill and work it took to achieve them.

Now imagine a cable TV electronics hobby show.

Yeah. That's how I feel about music.

SiliconWizard:
One thing for sure, and which is actually on topic with this forum, is that electronics and software have (sometimes radically) changed the way many people do music these days, and this change is hardly comparable to what we have known in the past IMHO.

John B:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on June 03, 2020, 10:04:07 pm ---One thing for sure, and which is actually on topic with this forum, is that electronics and software have (sometimes radically) changed the way many people do music these days, and this change is hardly comparable to what we have known in the past IMHO.

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That's putting it mildly. We have extensive additive and subtractive synthesis for musical sound.

We literally have Universal Constructors for music.

eti:

--- Quote from: james_s on June 03, 2020, 06:19:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: chriva on June 03, 2020, 05:48:21 am ---james_s: This is in "general chat" ;)

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True, and in most cases I wouldn't take any issue with it. If you hang around here for a while though you might notice that the OP rarely contributes anything related to engineering, almost every one of his posts is an angry rant filled with bitter vitriol. He gives the impression of being an extremely toxic person filled to the brim with contempt and hatred for the world and the people around him and frankly it's a drain. With all the negativity going on already I just don't see a lot of value in coming in here to piss on everyone. It's the same tired old rants over and over, the stereotypical angry old geezer lamenting the passing of his youth, ranting and raving about the world having gone to hell in a handbasket and everything sucks and get off my lawn.

The rants are old, tired and worn out, they've been around for as long as there have been old people. It depresses me to be getting steadily closer to the grave, still healthy but definitely past my peak I also look back fondly at my youth and wish sometimes that I could go back to those times. Despite this, (ignoring current events which are temporary) the world is not such a bad place these days and it could be worse, living through WWII which happened so soon after WWI must have made everything that has happened this year look like a stroll in the park. The current generation of kids will turn out just fine, there will be some good music produced in this era that people will look back fondly off while moaning about the crap being produced in 2070 or whatever, the cycle will repeat.

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"bitter, filled with vitriol and hate" - okkk then - I'll let you off, since you don't know me, ergo are without ANY way to judge me. I could tell you what you "sound like to me", but it would show equal ignorance on my part, and wouldn't be kind.

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