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| DiTBho:
__O__M__G__ things like hard drives are going crazy! This morning I browsed through five different online stores, phoned to six physical ones, and none of them can sell me anything under 2Tbyte!!! "sorry, the minimal size we have is 2Tbyte" Which is not exactly correct, Seagate still has some BarraCuda 500GByte HDD in their catalog, but no-store has it for sale, and if you contact a Seagate dealer ... there is a minimal order of 100 units. So I have just contacted my usual CDD ("computer-drug dealer"), and ordered qty=8 sATA 250GB disks! (yes,yes,yes, I know ... you can find some on Amazon, but ... I'm paranoid about HDDs ... on Amazon they are usually declared "brand new" while they are second hand, refurbished, cleaned and polished .... sometimes not even very well and find other people's files on the HDD anyway ...) Jesus, I have a couple of twin SCSI-to-sATA box, the firmware can only address 1Tbyte of total space, and there are 4 HDD slots, I cannot mount four HDDs of 2TByte each! Neither I can mount 500GByte each (unless I am ready to downgrade the capacity to the half) 4x250GByte = 1TByte -> perfect! 4x500GByte = 2TByte -> on each disk, 50% space wasted 1Tbyte of total space looked so huuuuuuuugggggggeeeeeeee when I bought the storage-box (in 2009), nowadays it's nothing because people is looking for things like the Synology-DiskStation-DS1821 with eight HDD bays, and then each disk is about 14Tbyte 14Tbyte on a single physical HDD, I didn't even think it existed, and that DiskStation has 8 bays of them :o :o :o and 8 x 14Tbyte = ....?!?!?#~'~...... WTF <0---+++ it's too big, my mind is 32bit, it overflows I can't count, can you? :o :o :o I can't use such a storage-thing, too big, can you? Seriously, I cannot even imagine how you can format and use so big storage space. For Youtube video? Or for what? Are those huge DISKs reliable? Or too dense (too many Gbyte per mm^2)? Hence prone to failure? mumble :-// |
| m98:
I don't see what you're trying to achieve? Why are you buying deliberately small disks for your ancient storage box, instead of just getting a new one? If you want predictable reliability, use RAID 1, 5 or 10. |
| DiTBho:
--- Quote from: m98 on April 26, 2022, 10:51:53 am ---I don't see what you're trying to achieve? Why are you buying deliberately small disks for your ancient storage box, instead of just getting a new one? If you want predictable reliability, use RAID 1, 5 or 10. --- End quote --- I need to support some old machines, they don't have sATA, they only have SCSI and you can't install any modern PCI / PCIe cards, there are no drivers and it won't work, so a good solution is a sATA-to-SCSI box, which works well, it exposes each sATA disk as if it was a SCSI disk, but the LBA addressing is limited to a quarter of TeraByte on each disk. Anyway, what I am doing is not *THE* point, but rather if those modern 14TB disks are as reliable as the smaller ones I am using. Personally I don't think so; as I understand it, modern disks are less reliable, so let's fix the problem with RAID? For example, RAID-6 appears to be mandatory for that Synology 8-bay drive. Note, I have to replicate the array for a second twin setup, that 1 Tbyte array was created in 2009 and is currently only 40% full, I wonder what people is expecting to store in 112TByte of space. |
| jpanhalt:
I share the same concern and still use Win7. My solution is to keep a few 500 gb SSD as spares. They are still available from Amazon at about $60 locally (Cleveland, Ohio). I use RAID1. Just ordered 2 more. |
| DiTBho:
--- Quote from: jpanhalt on April 26, 2022, 11:37:24 am ---They are still available from Amazon --- End quote --- --- Quote from: DiTBho on April 26, 2022, 10:32:07 am ---I know ... you can find some on Amazon, but ... I'm paranoid about HDDs ... on Amazon they are usually declared "brand new" while they are second hand, refurbished, cleaned and polished .... sometimes not even very well and find other people's files on the HDD ... --- End quote --- I am paranoid, but also inconsistent, so I just ordered two Barracudas ;D I will check them with SMART, if I find they have been used, I will return them. |
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