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tom66:
Perhaps the effect on OLED phones is due to an antiglare filter.  OLED phones can't make the screen as bright, especially for long periods of time (try opening a web browser with a full white background on 100% brightness, after 30 seconds or so the screen will auto-dim as some thermal or integrated-time limit is reached) so they need an antiglare filter.  LCDs obviously wouldn't have this limit and you can make discrete LEDs run far brighter anyway.

I used to be a fan of OLEDs on phones, maybe my next phone will get an OLED, but they're more technical curiosities than anything.  I'm not convinced they make the overall "owning a phone" experience much better, unless you're into HDR video playback on a 5" screen.  They have a lot of downsides, such as much higher cost of repair if broken, burn in and worse battery life. 

tooki:

--- Quote from: tom66 on October 26, 2022, 10:49:27 am ---Perhaps the effect on OLED phones is due to an antiglare filter.

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Antiglare filter? Huh? No, phone OLEDs use antireflective (and oleophobic) coatings, not antiglare filters. I suspect it’s caused by the asymmetrical subpixel sizes (and shapes and positions) on OLED displays.

PlainName:

--- Quote from: james_s on October 26, 2022, 05:29:39 am ---This is all kind of beside the point anyway. The video (which it seems most people didn't watch) is covering a specific and apparently very common failure mode of that particular monitor. It's not that it's a bad looking display, or that high resolution LCDs are all junk, but that particular one frequently fails not long after the warranty is up and the repair is difficult and fiddly.

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Well done for the only comment in the thread relevant to the video  :-+

Everyone else is typing before they know what they're commenting on  :palm:

james_s:

--- Quote from: Berni on October 26, 2022, 07:56:37 am ---Lots of people look back at CRTs with retro rose tinted glasses. Yes they looked absolutely amazing compared to the crappy LCDs we had back then. This is probably what gave people the impression of them being so great. Heck even i stuck with my CRT monitors until they finally died because they looked better than the LCD alternative. Compared to everything else they just looked better. However in all those years display technology has advanced a lot and we don't necessarily notice all the small incremental improvements done to it. But if you try looking at a CRT side by side to a OLED you will see how far we have gotten.

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I don't have to look back, I have lots of CRTs in service still. There's a nice 27" Sony XBR downstairs that is used mostly for the vintage console games. I have a collection of arcade cabinets that all have the original CRT monitors, I have a 15" Sony studio monitor that will do 1080i, it looks amazing. I also have several vintage computers with CRT monitors, nothing else out there looks quite like a good CRT. Lack of a fixed grid of pixels is inherently superior IMO when displaying multiple different resolutions. OLED does look fantastic, if the made a 4:3 OLED I think that would be a good CRT replacement in some applications.

james_s:

--- Quote from: tom66 on October 26, 2022, 10:49:27 am ---Perhaps the effect on OLED phones is due to an antiglare filter.  OLED phones can't make the screen as bright, especially for long periods of time (try opening a web browser with a full white background on 100% brightness, after 30 seconds or so the screen will auto-dim as some thermal or integrated-time limit is reached) so they need an antiglare filter.  LCDs obviously wouldn't have this limit and you can make discrete LEDs run far brighter anyway.

I used to be a fan of OLEDs on phones, maybe my next phone will get an OLED, but they're more technical curiosities than anything.  I'm not convinced they make the overall "owning a phone" experience much better, unless you're into HDR video playback on a 5" screen.  They have a lot of downsides, such as much higher cost of repair if broken, burn in and worse battery life.

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The thing that has kept me from getting an OLED phone is that they're all huge and/or have a notch or hole punch in the screen. I can't wait for the stupid obsession with eliminating bezels dies off, I absolutely cannot stand flaws in a display. A hole punch or notch is no different to me than a large cluster of bad pixels, and I think it's funny how fanboys will get behind those but nobody would accept a device that had a big clump of defective pixels.

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