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Offline hussamaldeanTopic starter

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has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« on: September 18, 2019, 07:32:55 pm »
Hi all,
did the GFCI/RCCB ever saved your life ?
I start. I was working on some project and I was using this type of PSU

which  can provide 32A@12V. one of the wire got inside and it hurt me to the moon and beyond for fraction of a seconds and kaboom RCCD has popped and saved my life
but I loved the feeling of  the 220V on my body though since I experienced worse with 30KV of taser device and it was awesome
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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2019, 08:36:47 pm »
I'm still here, so I'm guessing yes?
 

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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2019, 08:54:26 pm »
I’ve had a few GFCI trips over the years, but hard to argue they saved my life. I’ve also taken a few handfuls of 120VAC hits and one memorable 240VAC hit with very sweaty hands. That one stung! Obviously, none were fatal. ;)
 

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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2019, 09:05:57 pm »
No, I don't think so. I've the odd, mostly one handed, glancing live-neutral hits but I'm usually far too insulated from ground to get anywhere near 30mA imbalance and trip anything.

I've also accidentally cut through the mains lead on my hedge trimmer a few times but, being double insulated, that's never tripped anything - the cut has always been too fast to blow the fuse or trip the breaker either.
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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2019, 09:08:18 pm »
It didnt save me, but it did trip once when I spilled coffee all over the bench and that 300W power supply, that was casually powered and lying on the bench.
 

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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2019, 09:49:24 pm »
I’ve had a few GFCI trips over the years, but hard to argue they saved my life. I’ve also taken a few handfuls of 120VAC hits and one memorable 240VAC hit with very sweaty hands. That one stung! Obviously, none were fatal. ;)

Likewise although most of mine have been 240VAC. However, I do feel GFCI's/RCD's are generally a good thing.
 

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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2019, 10:50:08 pm »
but I loved the feeling of  the 220V on my body though since I experienced worse with 30KV of taser device and it was awesome

Also, Tasers don't operate at 30KV (unless it's some crappy knock-off device from the internet). Their open circuit voltage may be up there in the tens of kilovolts range but as soon as the probes make contact with a fleshy target, the voltage drops significantly. Having being trained in the use of both the Taser (now Axon) X26 and X26P, the voltage under load is around 1200 volts and the current is limited to 2 mA. This is more than enough to induce neuromuscular incapacitation and knock you off your feet.
 

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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2019, 11:12:03 pm »
Survivor bias at work... those that weren't saved can't report on it :D

But no, had no GFCI trip so far, apart from intentionally activating it at a friends house.
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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2019, 11:51:29 pm »
I've gotten quite a few shocks in my life, but never to the point of GFCI/RCCB tripping off actually. I guess I have good reflexes (and never had that happen with wet bare feet or such) so that was never enough.

Still, never felt really nice. Like my whole body was vibrating. And usually my heart would be beating pretty fast every time. But I never got "stuck".

I won't comment on the " I experienced worse with 30KV of taser device and it was awesome ", as I think this is an EE forum, not a S&M one. ::)
 
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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2019, 02:27:57 am »
I managed to trip one with a right hand to belly shock (I was up a metal ladder with the end resting on some structural steel at the time), tripped the RCD AND came off the ladder.
Bloody hurt it did, nothing to recommend about the experience.

That 100ms@100mA seems like FOREVER (Yep, it was a time delay unit).

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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2019, 02:48:24 am »
I haven't been zapped after moving to the US. Back in my home town no GFCI/RCCBs existed and, having 220VAC, it was definitely not fun to get one.

I like to think that these shocks did not have any lasting mental or physical effecs (although my brother and my friends beg to differ on the mental effects :P )
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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2019, 07:00:36 am »
it seems everybody is happy with his shocking experience while working
for me it is a great experience and I like to not repeat it once more but I tried 100V DC and it was good but not like 60V AC  ::) ::)
 

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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2019, 11:53:44 am »
I managed to trip one with a right hand to belly shock (I was up a metal ladder with the end resting on some structural steel at the time), tripped the RCD AND came off the ladder.
Bloody hurt it did, nothing to recommend about the experience.

That 100ms@100mA seems like FOREVER (Yep, it was a time delay unit).

Regards, Dan.

Yep, that would be about ideal conditions for a trip  ;)   Glad you survived the fall!
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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2019, 12:05:24 pm »
I’ve had a few GFCI trips over the years, but hard to argue they saved my life. I’ve also taken a few handfuls of 120VAC hits and one memorable 240VAC hit with very sweaty hands. That one stung! Obviously, none were fatal. ;)

Same here, more 120 VAC hits over the years that I can count.  Doesn't even bother me any more.  I had a 240 VAC hit that just about knocked me on my ass.  I was out of sorts a couple of hours before I felt OK.
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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2019, 03:19:42 pm »
the voltage under load is around 1200 volts and the current is limited to 2 mA. This is more than enough to induce neuromuscular incapacitation and knock you off your feet.

That doesn't make sense. The impedance of the human body is far less than 600k. If it's limited to 2mA, you'll see voltages less than 50V
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Re: has ever GFCI/RCCB saved your life ?
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2019, 07:04:28 pm »
For a taser you can´t really tell where both electrodes will hit... the distance might vary a lot, also it could hit clothing. The body resistance is also voltage dependent.
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