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Mouse plague deals fresh blow to Australian farmers
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Ed.Kloonk:

--- Quote from: VK3DRB on May 28, 2021, 08:59:30 am ---https://www.3aw.com.au/the-3aw-interview-that-left-tom-elliott-questioning-where-society-is-headed/

According to the cafe-latte sipping Greens in PETA, I am a serial killer. I have murdered while families of mice, subjecting them to a terrible death - poison, decapitation, and running over them with a motor mower ripping their babies to shreds :-DD.

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Alot of ppl are missing the whole point of the anger towards PETA. Them saying we shouldn't exterminate the vermin is indeed silly for them to say. However, it's their efforts in preventing people from keeping the pest numbers down in the first place that inhibits the ability to prevent plagues. It is that that needs to be examined.
beanflying:
Important to note that PETA are complete Hypocrites and have a Cat and Dog Euthanasia count at their shelters that is ignored while preaching morality to others.
magic:
Meanwhile in Poland we have a plague of those filthy Spanish slugs.



I wonder what PETA would say about all the creative methods of killing them that our women come up with ::)
Because most women don't have the balls to "simply" stomp on those little shits...
Zero999:

--- Quote from: tom66 on May 28, 2021, 08:13:34 am ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on May 27, 2021, 10:05:32 pm ---Here's the video I was talking about. Skip the first 45 seconds if you just want to hear the animal rights nutjob go on about not killing mice. :popcorn:


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But that's not what the activist said (I can't believe I'm defending PETA.)   She would prefer 'catch and release' but she understands that's not realistic in a scenario like this (the implication is of course they will be killed though she doesn't say that.)  She wanted the government to intervene more before this became a problem, which is absolutely the only way you stop such a plague.

The host (along with bundling in climate change and wildfire management, y'know, things with actual science behind them) pushes this as a big anti-intellectual conspiracy.  Not surprising given Sky News Australia is owned by Murdoch, and Australia has many fewer media fairness regulations compared to e.g. the UK.

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Point taken regarding not to take Sky News too seriously, but she was still foolish to mention catch and release. She should have known it would anger many and not further her cause.


--- Quote from: beanflying on May 28, 2021, 05:18:35 am ---
--- Quote from: james_s on May 28, 2021, 04:57:22 am ---Well they're native here, or at least they've been around for as long as Europeans have been. I'd much rather have a bunch of cats around than a bunch of birds and rodents and stuff, I never did like birds, they crap all over my car and wake me up in the morning but whatever. It's true you don't get something for nothing, and really the most destructive pests on this planet by far are humans. You have to spay/neuter the cats so they don't breed out of control.

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That is a bad argument for the Cat. They are more or less the top predator in Oz in particular and already out there is the number of Millions unchecked and feral. The culling campaign is a band aid on an amputation given they live over the entire country including some of the remotest areas. They are nothing like the cute and cuddly housecat that get a trip to the Vet at 12 weeks for a snip. In some of the areas shown with the Mice issue the nearest Vet for example might be 2-300km+ away for a start.

Pre 1770/1788 there was no Mice or Rattus Rattus and no Cats or Rabbits or Foxes or Cane Toads or Pigs or ..... Their common ancestory is fairly recent and the Damage done is huge.

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The media talk about this being a natural disaster, but it's man made. Humans released these pests and now have to deal with the consequences.

Some are advocating stronger poisons to deal with the mice, but how are they going to avoid collateral damage?

If you kill all the cats, you'll have more mice. It's easier to kill cats, than mice, since they're larger and fewer of them. There's no simple solution to the problem.
nctnico:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on May 28, 2021, 02:54:30 am ---Might it work to use scanning high power lasers (relatively cheap nowadays) to blind the mice so they'll have a harder time escaping from predators?

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Mice operate mostly by smell so blinding them won't help much
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