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floobydust:
One post by OP, we have no idea what the part is, especially how much proprietry tech is in it.
Why give away your tech, specs and be all open about it on the Internet- if you have a unique product? There are many arguments that companies are giving out far too much information, feeding competitors and cloners, on the Internet. Not all products are mass market commodities made by several companies.
Example Hamamatsu Photonics has incredible technology that is not sold by others. They conceal with good reason. You jump when they say jump.

grumpy_engineer:

--- Quote from: floobydust on December 09, 2021, 04:57:37 am ---One post by OP, we have no idea what the part is, especially how much proprietry tech is in it.
Why give away your tech, specs and be all open about it on the Internet- if you have a unique product? There are many arguments that companies are giving out far too much information, feeding competitors and cloners, on the Internet. Not all products are mass market commodities made by several companies.
Example Hamamatsu Photonics has incredible technology that is not sold by others. They conceal with good reason. You jump when they say jump.


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You know, I could see your point if they asked for an NDA before giving out the datasheet - but that's not the case. All you need to do to get the datasheets is to buy a devkit.

Imagine you are trying to design a fairly complex device. What's the first thing that you do - look at the components you will need right? Check out their datasheets and start putting things together, right? Now imagine if you had to buy a devkit each time you want to check out a component to see if it fits into your design - that's idiotic.

Murata is not asking for an NDA or hiding their information, they are requesting you buy a devkit first before you get their datasheets. If someone wanted to steal their IP I'm sure they have no problems buying a single 50 dollar devkit. Their mitigation strategy won't stop that. Same as their competition, they will have no issues buying a devkit to see what Murata is up too.

The only person who is really affected is stressed-out engineers running against deadlines who have to delay their product by a week until a devkit arrives.

TLDR: Asking people to buy a devkit before they get the datasheets accomplishes nothing but pissing off honest engineers by putting another pointless obstacle in their way. It does not hide their IP, it does not stop their IP from being jacked, it does not stop their competition knowing what they are up to.

james_s:
The way I deal with this is if I can't get the datasheet easily I go with a competitor's part instead. I'm too small for any company to care, but I also badmouth the companies I have bad experience with to people with a lot more connections and I praise companies I have good dealings with. The reason companies behave this way is that they can get away with it. Usually they're the ones that only care about huge customers who buy hundreds of thousands of parts. Companies like that fail all the time though, just look at all the mergers that have been going on in recent years.

Bassman59:

--- Quote from: Kasper on December 08, 2021, 06:59:12 pm ---With maxim I went through the NDA and telling them all about our company to get my hands on a datasheet.  Then when their newer version came out I asked for its datasheet and they said that has it's own NDA.  I requested the NDA multiple times and never heard back.

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Hopefully now that Maxim is part of Analog Devices, their worst practices will end.

DeanA:

--- Quote from: AntiProtonBoy on December 09, 2021, 02:34:13 am --- want to drink sake in a whorehouse before signing a contract,

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;D ;D ;D ;D Love it, "drink sake in a whorehouse before signing a contract" reminds me of Malaysia, but there it was Martell Blue. lol.

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