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VK3DRB:

--- Quote from: andy3055 on December 01, 2020, 02:13:16 pm ---What kind of Electrical code do they follow there?

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AS3000 is the wiring code.
 
Some electricians could not be bothered adhering to AS3000 regulations and they lack due diligence and common sense. Examples I have witnessed myself are 230 active mains wire touching a metal bathtub, illegal switch board wiring, no earth to two metallic light fittings (earth wires left dangling off), no earth on a GPO mains outlet. There is only one electrician I know that I can trust to do the job right.

In Australia (Victoria at least) it is illegal to do your own mains wiring (240V) and solar wiring (non SELV), even if you are an experienced electrical engineer. You have to have an electrician's license. In the UK, people can wire their own power outlets in their home. The death rate by electrocution in the home is lower in the UK than it is Australia.
Ed.Kloonk:

--- Quote from: VK3DRB on December 02, 2020, 09:55:50 am ---
--- Quote from: andy3055 on December 01, 2020, 02:13:16 pm ---What kind of Electrical code do they follow there?

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AS3000 is the wiring code.
 
Some electricians could not be bothered adhering to AS3000 regulations and they lack due diligence and common sense. Examples I have witnessed myself are 230 active mains wire touching a metal bathtub, illegal switch board wiring, no earth to two metallic light fittings (earth wires left dangling off), no earth on a GPO mains outlet. There is only one electrician I know that I can trust to do the job right.

In Australia (Victoria at least) it is illegal to do your own mains wiring (240V) and solar wiring (non SELV), even if you are an experienced electrical engineer. You have to have an electrician's license. In the UK, people can wire their own power outlets in their home. The death rate by electrocution in the home is lower in the UK than it is Australia.

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The sticking point is electronics engineer vs certified electrical engineer and it's not an 'electrician's license', it is a contractors license.
Whales:
So your undergrounded mains comes up to this "pillar" on the ground?  Top notch  8)


--- Quote ---Power & Water authorities were called
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Power authority == distribution provider?  Or did you contact your energy retailer (ie the people who send you bills)?

FWIW: If we _totally ignore_ the safety issues here, then the work on your property to fix it might be seen as "contestable" by some distribution operators, hence the distributor sparky may not be allowed to do it even if you ask them.  I don't know how all of the fine print works, there is more legal & rules than molecules of water in that pit. 

But still: why on earth would they turn the power back on to something like that?  Maybe the only other option the distrib sparky had would be to declare your connection unsafe (& not reconnect it), so he's doing you a "favour" by not making you go through that?   :scared:   I could understand (but not necessarily agree with) such a motivation.
GlennSprigg:

--- Quote from: Whales on December 02, 2020, 10:42:10 am ---So your undergrounded mains comes up to this "pillar" on the ground?  Top notch  8)


--- Quote ---Power & Water authorities were called
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Power authority == distribution provider?  Or did you contact your energy retailer (ie the people who send you bills)?

FWIW: If we _totally ignore_ the safety issues here, then the work on your property to fix it might be seen as "contestable" by some distribution operators, hence the distributor sparky may not be allowed to do it even if you ask them.  I don't know how all of the fine print works, there is more legal & rules than molecules of water in that pit. 

But still: why on earth would they turn the power back on to something like that?  Maybe the only other option the distrib sparky had would be to declare your connection unsafe (& not reconnect it), so he's doing you a "favour" by not making you go through that?   :scared:   I could understand (but not necessarily agree with) such a motivation.

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Hi.  I initially mentioned the word 'authorities' just to keep it simple. The actual controlling Govt bodies. The Plumber was a
sub-contractor working under direction from the 'Power & Water Corporation' here in Western-Australia. (No complaint for him!).
However, the Electrician was in a truck/utility with 'Western Power' written all over it, and they are THE main Govt authority here.
(He did not seem to be a Contractor, and all the above have nothing to do with meter-reading/bills services).

The main problem for me, was that apart from the 'Design' of this 'pit' with the elect equip being way too low, (to be addressed),
that I expected him to at LEAST temporarily open all the covers and dry the parts out first!! 
coppercone2:
sounds like standard procedure, I saw a tree limb (something like a 9x12 inch piece) being used to separate wires after a 'emergency' repair for like.. 3 months.

they probobly get paid on a quota or something so he does not give a shit. the only thing he would get is 'why did that take so long' and massive scrutiny that he is wasting company resources to do 'unnecessary' work.

all over the place in every corporation. standard procedure for a manager to get promoted is to push massive amounts of shoddy work.



--- Quote from: Whales on December 02, 2020, 10:42:10 am ---But still: why on earth would they turn the power back on to something like that?  Maybe the only other option the distrib sparky had would be to declare your connection unsafe (& not reconnect it), so he's doing you a "favour" by not making you go through that?   :scared:   I could understand (but not necessarily agree with) such a motivation.

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also with those guys, more jobs = more OT, because they are paying them high amounts for emergency overtime repairs, they will give preference to high overtime pay with the people that get the most work done to make the overtime money worth it for the company, on accounting paperwork. He can fall in favor on a overtime preference list (common in power companies) and cost him quite a few hours of pay of a half, double pay or triple pay if he does it slower then anyone else there. Enjoy somalian utilities ;)

Those guys might be cranking 60-70$ an hour easily (or more) doing those over times. expect fierce resistance from the top down.. another (light) blue wall of silence there. Those guys are serious work junkies around here, hours are ALL that counts. Union gave them raises in quarters, the overtime pay dominated their salary bonus until they are late in their game. The bonus stays sweet but the older guys will want quality of life so they do better work because it means less to them when they are established, wife/family usually starts to get effected heavily (bribe money stops working). Also, back injuries slow em down.

its not 100% but its prevalent.

So, its better for that guys pocket book in the long run with +1 on his jobs completed list and slightly better odds at extra OT.

Accountant: I don't feel so bad with the 250% storm pay with those guys because those crews will get more jobs done! hooray. If I did not take it into account the jobs might take longer with a random pool of people. I can't let that happen for the sake of the spreadsheet! homer did 25, Larry did 40. Guess who they are gonna offer it to?
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