If 10 million people are watching youtube does that mean there are 10m harddrive

[mariush]

If you needed to transfer this data particularly far. Say from Alaska to Argentina (Practically to the the other side of the world) you would need to drive pretty fast to beat ISDN. One guy did this route as a road trip and documented it taking 23 days.

But if you didn't have ISDN and had to do it with 56K dialup modems it would take at least 3 times as long so it would now take about 1/4 of a year to complete. Dialing directly would probably also cost more than actually driving your truck there.

You could get in a plane with a backpack full of 2-4 GB drives or a bunch of tapes... maybe 2 days max with mixing with trains and ferries and cars...

You could even argue it's cheaper depending how much in advance you could reserve tickets for cheaper price.

Here in Romania when dial-up was still a thing and isdn barely started, isdn was... probably 200-300$ a month in today's money.

You could bribe a train driver or the guy that checks tickets on train with 5-10$ to take a package and deliver it in hands of guy waiting at station...
6-8h and your package is across country (~300-400 miles)

Parents do this for university students even now... cheaper than regular mail and faster.

[mariush]

but instead have loads of RAM, like for example 256-512 GB of RAM

I left the game a while ago so this quote led me to search where we are now and if anyone's interested : 24TB at SuperMicro servers, 12TB at Amazon EC2, 2TB at OVH rentals.

I wasn't saying maximums, i know more is possible.
256-512GB is the "sweetspot", doable with 8-16 x 32-64GB sticks, which aren't so expensive.
for some uses it's better to have 50 servers with 128-512 gb instead of 2 with 12TB ...load balancing, network throughput, other reasons

[Berni]

Yep backpack full of drives on a plane is certainly faster, but a van could also carry a lot more hard drives.

They actually did race ADSL against a pigeon with a 4GB memory card strapped to it over a 60 mile route:
https://phys.org/news/2009-09-carrier-pigeon-faster-broadband-internet.html

Even in the modern day the postal service is used as a replacement for internet. Radio telescopes that collect vast amount of data send the results back in the form or mailing full hard drives. Because of how much data they have to get across this turned out to be faster and more economical than actually sending it over the internet.

But internet has certainly improved a lot. I now have a symmetrical 150Mbit line at home and i barely use up any of the full bandwidth. If i did use all of it for download then i would fill up my 12TB NAS in about a week.

If you get your hands on 1Gbit internet (Some places in the world have this for a non insane price) its possible to port scan every IPv4 IP address from 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255 on the internet in 45 minutes. Tho careful doing that because the ISP might not like due to so many tiny packets making there network switches catch fire and later on getting a few calls from people with supposedly "secret" IP addresses on where you got there IP and why you attempted to connect to it.

[Richard Crowley]

One of my favorite quotes from computing history:

"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway."
Computer Networks, 3rd ed., p. 83. (paraphrasing Dr. Warren Jackson, Director, University of Toronto Computing Services (UTCS) circa 1985)

Ref: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Andrew_S._Tanenbaum

[Beamin]

Also, do you guys remember this classic??? 

https://youtu.be/SXmv8quf_xM

I want some of that “tracer T” action...

Way before 2008 I remember we were looking at peoples webcams and doing other shit. I miss the days of the mail bomber and the anon email program where you could email as anyone else you wanted to. But people were more wise on the internet back then.

He was looking at 10 people using google and didn't stop to think, "hmmmm it's 2008, maybe there are MORE then 10 people using google at any given moment, and the days of only having 10 people per site was probably before I was even born." Isn't .rr.com the roadrunner service of timewarner cable? That video is sad for 2008 at his age. Don't forget to subscribe before he goes through puberty. What was he actually looking at?

[tooki]

Because he included the “http://” in the traceroute, he was trying to resolve a hostname that doesn’t exist. But because the ISP uses one of those services where failed DNS lookups don’t fail, but instead return a search page, traceroute was actually tracing the route to the ISP’s search page...

[Beamin]

Because he included the “http://” in the traceroute, he was trying to resolve a hostname that doesn’t exist. But because the ISP uses one of those services where failed DNS lookups don’t fail, but instead return a search page, traceroute was actually tracing the route to the ISP’s search page...

So he did have roadrunner internet. He should have noticed this, but then again he sucks at "the intrawebz". I should write a manual on how to properly look at things to understand what's going on, especially since I'm legally blind and even I saw that.


Just watched that video again and he couldn't figure out "elps" was el paso texas. That's really cringe.  He can't view their internet because its better then his, I like that part. He sucks at BS'ing as much as he does hacking.