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Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« on: July 27, 2022, 11:14:59 am »
Did you see this crazy stuff?


They use dead spiders as a tool.  >:D That is evil, but interesting

 

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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2022, 11:19:43 am »
No. Just no. That's creepy.
 

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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2022, 11:42:38 am »
Coming to a fairground near you soon  :-DD

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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2022, 09:07:28 am »
I am not surprised that some grad student thought: "Let's play around with this."

I am mildly concerned that their professor wanted to be associated with this "project".

I am baffled that Rice University's public relations team considered this such a great showcase for Rice that they produced a video and published it on the University's official Youtube channel.
 

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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2022, 09:22:18 am »
That puts the "bug" back in to the computer like in the old days :o


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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2022, 02:31:26 pm »
No. Just no. That's creepy.

You should see the things that I can pick up with my built-in hydraulics.
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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2022, 02:41:49 pm »
not the eco-robotics we want, but the eco-robotics we deserve
 
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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2022, 03:28:50 pm »
No. Just no. That's creepy.

You should see the things that I can pick up with my built-in hydraulics.

The answer to that is here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/post-a-picture-of-a-cat!/msg4325632/#msg4325632

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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2022, 07:51:25 pm »
Did you see this crazy stuff?


They use dead spiders as a tool.  >:D That is evil, but interesting



Well, at least they are dead... Who cares about dead spiders?

I am more interested in living Spiders rather than dead. I just hope that these people will not kill spiders just because they want to... Otherwise I will create a big mutant spider to avenge all other spiders!

P.S. Joke. Or maybe no?
 

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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2022, 02:45:31 am »
You should see the things that I can pick up with my built-in hydraulics.
Muscles (at least in humans) aren't hydraulic, they're more like electrochemical amplifiers coupled to fibers that pull on each other when given an electrochemical potential change. The interesting part is that the fibers are either contracting or not and how many are contracting is how the force can be modulated, in other words in a way it's digital!
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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2022, 04:43:17 am »
You should see the things that I can pick up with my built-in hydraulics.
Muscles (at least in humans) aren't hydraulic, they're more like electrochemical amplifiers coupled to fibers that pull on each other when given an electrochemical potential change. The interesting part is that the fibers are either contracting or not and how many are contracting is how the force can be modulated, in other words in a way it's digital!

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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2022, 05:09:58 am »
Fake/DeepFake.
 

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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2022, 01:09:48 am »
I wonder how they came up with the idea, spider got accidentally impaled on a machine and they thought, "oh lets leave it running anyway", then suddenyl, "my hell, it's working better now"
 

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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2022, 06:17:24 am »
Fake/DeepFake.

Just because you want it to be fake, doesn't mean it is. I see nothing wrong with the physics here, the air pressure is moving the spider legs just like the fluid pressure would when it was alive. Which is why a spider was chosen as other insects would have required a network of tiny wires.

Plus that's not what deepfakes are, they're used to simulate people, not a dead spider on a stick.
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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2022, 06:20:35 am »
I wonder how they came up with the idea, spider got accidentally impaled on a machine and they thought, "oh lets leave it running anyway", then suddenyl, "my hell, it's working better now"

The inner minds of nerds is a dark place. Do we need to bring up the reanimated animal head experiments?
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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2022, 02:00:16 pm »
You should see the things that I can pick up with my built-in hydraulics.
Muscles (at least in humans) aren't hydraulic, they're more like electrochemical amplifiers coupled to fibers that pull on each other when given an electrochemical potential change. The interesting part is that the fibers are either contracting or not and how many are contracting is how the force can be modulated, in other words in a way it's digital!
Yyyyeah, he wasn’t talking about muscles. ;)
 
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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2022, 07:06:28 pm »
 :-DD Reminds me of that time, when we zapped dead flies with piezos from lighters. Back in elementary scool.
They spin in place in case you wonder.
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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2022, 09:17:50 pm »
:-DD Reminds me of that time, when we zapped dead flies with piezos from lighters. Back in elementary scool.
They spin in place in case you wonder.
There's a project to hack a cockroach to be remote controlled:
https://backyardbrains.com/experiments/roboRoachSurgery
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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2022, 09:26:15 pm »
(doing my best Groucho Marx)

I've done "dead bug" construction, but this is ridiculous...
 
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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2022, 12:03:47 am »
Fake/DeepFake.

Or maybe not. https://phys.org/news/2022-07-necrobotic-spiders-dead-legs-puff.html
My problem is with the resistor extraction; I just don't see that kind of strength in spiders of that size. Unless it has some "extra skeleton" inside, you can easily broke apart the spider leg with the force less then necessary to pull out the resistor. Remember: the legs are NOT made of silk... And one more thing: spiders are fragile; a direct hit, which make a mosquito dizzy, it kills a similar sized spider(both fly away inertially, doesn't get flat).
Now let's figure out, if some cheating happened on the breadboard:

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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2022, 02:49:14 am »
That appears to be a jumper wire, not a resistor[1], but if you look carefully at the lengths of the leads before and after the spider picks it up, it's clear that it was nowhere near inserted; just sitting on the contacts in the breadboard.


[1] Yes, everything except superconductors can be a resistor. You know what I mean...
 
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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2022, 09:42:58 pm »
Just think about the possibilities in firearm concealment and development!
One day, perhaps, we'll be able to bear bear arm arms.
 

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Re: Necrobotics / Dead spider pick and place
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2022, 09:49:19 pm »
But that's just yet another example of well wasted public money.
 


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