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Neon
IanB:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on March 16, 2022, 07:19:53 pm ---Read my post again. :palm:
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Reading your post again doesn't change anything that I can see.
The UK is formally NOT part of the EU (Brexit happened, yes?)
SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: IanB on March 16, 2022, 08:31:27 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on March 16, 2022, 07:19:53 pm ---Read my post again. :palm:
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Reading your post again doesn't change anything that I can see.
The UK is formally NOT part of the EU (Brexit happened, yes?)
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I'm sure this was just a slip. (Freudian slip? ;D )
And that said, the fact the UK is not in the EU anymore doesn't change much when it comes to the impact of the current conflict on them.
LaserSteve:
Ukrainian and to a lessor extent Russian, Neon comes to the US as large liquid cryo tanks. Most of the actual cost is the distribution tank, the tank pressure test, packing, purity testing, and senseless hazmat fees. Three years ago I was given a number for the raw cost of the actual refined gas as a little more then a Dollar a Litre at STP,, prior to packing;
One of the things that really shocked me, was when my distributer told me he would buy the raw liquid here, ship it to Ukraine for purification, then bring it back.
In my case, isotopic separation is sometimes needed as well; which is not difficult but is very time consuming. That gets really expensive, but can lead to ~ 20% increase in laser performance.
In the case of Neon , isotope separation is a thermal process..
If this were peacetime I would post links to a beautiful web site explaining how its done. But not now. Suffice it to say you can nix the idea of the "Large Ex Soviet Plant"
Steve
westfw:
$1/l of gas sounds pretty expensive to me. I believe 1l is about 1g…
BrokenYugo:
Given the purity a buck a gram doesn't sound bad to me. I don't think this is the sort of neon used in signs and indicator lights, I would think that only needs to be pure enough to give the right color.
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