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New PC build p0rn photos.
« on: April 12, 2022, 09:39:22 pm »
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2022, 11:00:04 pm »
Yawn.
 
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2022, 11:09:26 pm »
meh. drop cpu in socket ,plug card in pci slot , power up , launch setup for os.
That's not a computer build.

Back in the day you had to do jumper settings on the plugin cards , carefully handcraft a config.sys , find out what interrupts were available to hook up the parallel port card. find the settings for the mfm drive and enter those in the bios.

This is even simpler than a hardwhino.
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2022, 12:05:07 am »
So you built a computer? Congrats!

But calling that p0rn? What do you expect? That Gen-Z computer phoolery hype?
Get the extreme ultra RGB, does the same, costs twice triple 4x more but it's what gamers use!
Sorry, but it seems this is the wrong forum, consider going to reddit for that :-DD

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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2022, 12:18:30 am »
Could you zoom in a bit more? It's kind of hard to see anything with the camera so far away like that.
 

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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2022, 12:31:50 am »
No custom coolant piping?  :-//
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2022, 01:51:38 am »
No custom coolant piping?  :-//
just dunk the whole thing in a vat of fluorinert and blow airbubbles through it. Seymour did that already back in the late 70's. So nothing new.
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2022, 05:09:58 am »
Wow. A roasting thread.

Cat looks more interested than anyone here.

Cat is wondering where the mouse is?

It's a loooong time since I built anything out of new parts. So I found it interesting due to the fact that the gear isn't covered in dust or infested with insects.
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2022, 07:58:12 am »
Isn't your memory placed wrong? For dual channel, the sticks had to be next to each other on every PC I built.
 

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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2022, 08:14:37 am »
meh. drop cpu in socket ,plug card in pci slot , power up , launch setup for os.
That's not a computer build.

Back in the day you had to do jumper settings on the plugin cards , carefully handcraft a config.sys , find out what interrupts were available to hook up the parallel port card. find the settings for the mfm drive and enter those in the bios.

This is even simpler than a hardwhino.

Awww sounds like your manly hood is being challenged by modern components working together.

Yea, I remember the days of IDE select jumpers in drives and on PCI cards I even remember ISA cards.  Everything else was just a poor, old OS with no plug and play, you can't blame the hardware for that.

There is also a LOT more going on than in a 286.  Things have changed a lot since those days.  Sure most of the components, assuming you know what you are buying, fit together and the OS recognises them or at least tries.  There is a lot more to do now though, so being honest, par for par I think they are about as difficult to build just not for the same reasons.

Heat plays a massive part these days.  Chips have been able to go much faster than we can actually run them, for a while now.  Keeping them cool has been the biggest hurdle. 

Dismantling and refitting new CPU socket brackets and the cooler.  Tearing down the £1000 GPU and refitting a new water die, ram and VRM cooler/pump block to it.  Building 2x360mm radiators, with 3 fans each, 2 independent cooling loops into the case is a challenge, a mechanical one, but still.  Setting up all the pumps, fans, temp sensors to keep things cool is another challenge.  Then you have to consider with all those pumps and fans running it sounds like a drone about to take off.  So you have to profile and curve the cooling to only get loud when it needs to be.

I mean, back in the day you are taking about, you ham fisted a cpu with pins the size of the arduino pin headers into a socket with such delicacy that you could do it wearing space suit gloves.  Put a heatsink on it if you were pushing the boat out.  You slapped a SIMM module into it's slot (if it even had expandable ram) and...  asides from a few 2.5mm spaced jumpers, all you had to do was plug it in and get the OS to play ball.

There is more effort today getting your case front panel hooked up to the motherboard for god sake.
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2022, 08:30:31 am »
Isn't your memory placed wrong? For dual channel, the sticks had to be next to each other on every PC I built.

Certainly on AMD it's been this way for a while.  Yes, it was the first thing I checked, then fitted them, got a cup of tea, came back and double checked them.

The only thing I did manage to screw up and did not double check or even check once I was so "sure".  I put the front radiator in upside down.  Pipes at the top!  Means air in the pick up area, means air bubbles and noise.  Had to take it out and flip it over again and move it up as the tubes didn't reach.
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2022, 08:36:09 am »
It's a loooong time since I built anything out of new parts. So I found it interesting due to the fact that the gear isn't covered in dust or infested with insects.

Ah.  Spending the time and effort on the cooling pays off in the end.  I used to experience the birds nests of pet hair, the fluff bunnies the size of rats.  The caked and baked orange gunk, the bed bugs and carpet beetles.

Those where the days when you stuffed 1 or 2 12V 90mm fans into a case, put up with the whine all day, and didn't care you turned the PC into a stationary vacuum cleaner.

Since I actually started to care and pay attention to the cooling and airflow issue more, I learn the ways of filters and positive pressure to prevent unmanaged air intake and thus, prevent dust.  (Its not perfect, but in 4 years my last build had a very small amount of dust inside.  The fans and radiators had brown crud on the leading edges, but nothing a hoover and paint brush couldn't remove in seconds. 

Not running the fans all the time when not needed extends the life of their bearings massively.  So even after 4 years of hard use all of the fans where still as quiet as when I bought them.

Sometimes the bling is bling, sometimes it's just practical stuff that looks pretty.
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2022, 08:46:56 am »
No custom coolant piping?  :-//
just dunk the whole thing in a vat of fluorinert and blow airbubbles through it. Seymour did that already back in the late 70's. So nothing new.

To be honest, anywhere there was an option to not have unicorn vomit, I went that option.

The top three fans for the GPU radiator were actually supposed to not be RGB enabled.  However the dispatch note "upgraded" me apparently.

I figured it might as well connect the LED headers.  Same for the CPU cooler and GPU block.

When I first turn it all with all of them connected, it was absolutely vile.  Rainbow marques and much "My little pony" love and happiness.

I set them all to "white".  I think it looks ok.  I can, and probably will set them all to black later.  All but the CPU which will be white as a nice power LED.  Then again, they can have a purpose, lighting the case up different colours to show different things.  Like flashing red if it's overheating or a pump/fan has died etc.  Or just the CPU and GPU blocks reflecting their temperature.

No custom loop, no custom tubing.  Two sealed all-in-one loops.  You could see it as the difference between a vented lead acid and a sealed zero-maintenance one, except AIOs last longer.  Hassle and leak free. (touch wood)

Again the ethos is function over form, but if it has a function AND looks good, I'm fine with that.

I don't think there was a single part of the build specced or bought purely for athestics or bling.  Except maybe the clear tempered glass side panel.  I did choose the untinted one over the blacked out one.  Figured if I had to choose one, I'd pick the one which improved it's function (a window!) and didn't hinder it for looks.
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2022, 09:08:49 am »
Get the extreme ultra RGB, does the same, costs twice triple 4x more but it's what gamers use!
PS: I would have chosen a 12700K, I even considered upgrading, but my 3770K is still up to the job and I don't follow silly capitalist desires :D

Define "the job".  And sure if you call gaming a capitalist desire, I'm guilty.

You find me a good spec'ed motherboard which DOESNT have RGB.

Where it was an option, I went with the non-RGB option.  You'd be surprised how limiting that can be though.  If you start out by searching for "No god damn unicorn vomit", you find yourself browsing the corporate thin client components.

On some of the excesses, like the flagship mainboard and the premium case.  For me these are "nice to haves", but for peace of mind and quality of life more than "dick waving".  The same goes for a lot of things in life.  You can go with the cheap option, it'll get your by, you might need to fiddle with it and add essential (to you) features later.  Or you can go with the more  premium model and be safe it will have what you need.  It will have a dozen other things you couldn't care less about, but it will meet your needs and then some where it maters without the hassle. 

"Quality of life", like the motherboard coming with a front panel header block, so you can assemble the half dozen jumpers onto it from the case and then in one go reach into the case, hold you tonque the right way, get it onto the header pins in the darkest, narrowest, spikiest bit of the case.

Or the case having the radiator brackets unscrew and slide out, so you can assemble the radiators and fans outside the case, cable manage them and just slide them in.  Reverse to remove for servicing.

CPU, Memory and GPU are all just numbers.  Pound per stat.  Price curves.  90 percentile.  Maybe reviews, but in each range they only really change in the raw numbers.

Cooling and fans, and their proper configuration, alignment, flows and control is somewhere I spend money because I know it's value in using auto-overclocking components that if you keep them cool, the run faster.  Add £200 to the price of the graphics card itself just for cooling, will usually net you another 20-25% over all performance.  Same for the CPU.
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2022, 02:43:37 pm »
Nice build, and quite balanced choice of components, for a game oriented machine!

It's not so dissimilar from mine - Fractal Design Meshify C, R9 5900X, GTX 3060 Ti, 2×16GB GSkill 3600 MHz CL16, Asus ROG Stryx B550-f gaming, WD SM-850 1 TB NVME.
No water cooling for me - a classic Noctua NH-D15 - as I'm often abroad and using the machine remotely, I'm a bit queasy with possible leaks - mostly silent unless under very heavy load.

My choice is a bit more compute oriented, but still very 'playable' (and I do play) if one does not go overboard with the quality settings.

One thing that you - and I! - could have slightly improved is using 4×8GB sticks of RAM, rather than 2×16GB: IIUC, it has a performance advantage with Ryzen processors.

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You find me a good spec'ed motherboard which DOESNT have RGB.
This.
I also use a lot of gaming stuff, including keyboard and mouse. Apart from the ubiquitous "unicorn vomit" (that can mostly be turned off, of made inconspicuous as you did), it's often higher quality and more reliable.

PS: My  sarcasm/humor meter is out for calibration, so I don't understand if some of the answer here are ironical or just sour grapes...

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« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2022, 02:49:37 pm »
Tearing down the £1000 GPU
Must not be a good design if you need to rip it up , out of the box, and start altering the cooling. I would buy a manufacturer that knows how to do proper cooling. I would take it back and write a bad review on how the board manufacturer doesn;t know didly squat about cooling the GPU and how i had to put water coolers on it.

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and refitting a new water die, ram and VRM cooler/pump block to it.  Building 2x360mm radiators, with 3 fans each, 2 independent cooling loops into the case is a challenge, a mechanical one, but still.  Setting up all the pumps, fans, temp sensors to keep things cool is another challenge.  Then you have to consider with all those pumps and fans running it sounds like a drone about to take off.  So you have to profile and curve the cooling to only get loud when it needs to be.
so you didn't build a computer. you did some plumbing and noise abatement.

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SIMM module into it's slot
pooh. SIMM . lol ! 18 pin dil ic's in sockets. HUNDREDS on them on an intel above-board with daughtercard ! double stack em with the top one having pin 14 bent outwards and wired  to ground to double the memory.

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2.5mm spaced jumpers
metric, LOL. we used 100 mil jumpers !

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There is more effort today getting your case front panel hooked up to the motherboard for god sake.
a proper one only needs a 10 pin usb cable in idc header.

I stopped building my own computers when intel stopped making motherboards. It's not worth the hassle anymore. I did setups with hundreds of machines for lab automation. Supermicro or intel motherboards , 19 inch rackmounted cases.
My last personal build was 10 years ago. I've switched to used Z workstations. Cheap ,( written off ) , lots of power / memory / storage and compact (laptop). no need for hefty water cooled towers.
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2022, 03:43:20 pm »
Tearing down the £1000 GPU
Must not be a good design if you need to rip it up , out of the box,

A watercooled one from the same or similar manufacturer exists, but its just as pricey and in addition requires a whole set of other custom water loop components. 

It's not about a "bad" product, it's like buying the family model car and swapping the parts that make it the sports model for much less money.  Follow? 

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so you didn't build a computer. you did some plumbing and noise abatement.
pooh. SIMM . lol ! 18 pin dil ic's in sockets. HUNDREDS on them on an intel above-board with daughtercard ! double stack em with the top one having pin 14 bent outwards and wired  to ground to double the memory.
metric, LOL. we used 100 mil jumpers !

This isn't the 1980s.

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a proper one only needs a 10 pin usb cable in idc header.

Fans?  How many USB?  What type?  A or C?  What version, 2.1?  3.0?  3.2?  3.2 Gen 2?  Turns out you use a lot of them these days.  I have about 16 in total and more than half are occupied + 4 hanging off a hub.

Disk headers?  Expansion cards? I suppose in those days a motherboard did jack shit all except manage CPU and memory and the PCI/ISA bus.  These days the only expansion card you would consider is a video card and even then if your not interested you can get CPUs and Mother boards with onboard video.

So that's:  CPU, Memory, HDMI 4K video output, HD Audio, Wifi, 8-16 USB ports front and back, audio plugs front and back, half a dozen individually controlled fan headers, Sata and PCIe disk controllers, hardware raid controller.  All of that and more on top no just the motherboard.  Not a PCI card in sight yet.   I2C bus, GPIO bus, SPI bus, RGB 281* buses, analgoue RGB buses.  5Gigabit network adapter + 2.5Gb adapater.

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I stopped building my own computers when intel stopped making motherboards. It's not worth the hassle anymore. I did setups with hundreds of machines for lab automation. Supermicro or intel motherboards , 19 inch rackmounted cases.
My last personal build was 10 years ago. I've switched to used Z workstations. Cheap ,( written off ) , lots of power / memory / storage and compact (laptop). no need for hefty water cooled towers.

Sounds like you missed the fun stuff.  The big change requiring the tower (and mines a MIDI Tower) is the amount of power these things consume and thus the heat they produce.  320W for just the video card.  Another 120-140W for the CPU.  Another 100W for the mainboard.  That's a LOT of heat to get rid of.  "Why get rid?", all modern components will slow themselves down to remain within thermal limits and stability.  So your lovely 4.6Ghz processor in your latest Z workstation with it's rubbish, "to a budget" cooler, rapidly drops it's clocks to 3.8Ghz as it can't handle the heat output at 4.6Ghz.  You might as well have bought the 3.8Ghz beside it for £300 cheaper.

I too use ex-corporate surplus PCs.  At £400-500 they are not exactly free though and typically from looking at the, about 4 generations out of date.  Circa 2010 maybe.   I prefer the older SFF PCs for media centres.  With a cheap 1030 video card they do decent 4K output for the TVs.  Rubbish for gaming though, they can't even work the 1030 hard the CPU is so slow, like Gen3 or Gen4 intel.

I also notice, if you care to look at the newer models, they seem to be using an awful lot of the same components as I am.  Most likely more OEM models, or 'white labelled' where they can.  Not sure about HP, but Dell make nice cases, although, again, all the bits that really matter beyond the headline stats are made to a budget and it shows in all their models.
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2022, 03:58:57 pm »
What do I do with such horsepower?

This is probably one of the driving use cases.... In VR.  Though not just the Apache.  Game is a beast on machines.
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« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2022, 07:09:43 pm »
I hope all those pretty lights and illuminated logos improve its performance, it would be terrible if they were pointless.
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« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2022, 07:27:12 pm »
I hope all those pretty lights and illuminated logos improve its performance, it would be terrible if they were pointless.

Chris, do come along chap, we did that 10 posts ago.
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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2022, 07:30:40 pm »
Oops, sorry. I got dazzled.  :D
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2022, 08:46:08 pm »
it's like buying the family model car and swapping the parts that make it the sports model for much less money.  Follow? 
It'll never be a sportscar. The chassis is wrong. The weight distribution wrong. It just looks like the other. Reminds me of those "kit" cars. look i drive a ferrari on a datsun chassis.

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Fans?
Wait. what happened to the water cooling ?

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How many USB?  What type?  A or C?
backplane has plenty.

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the only expansion card you would consider is a video card
How about PCIe Flash drive ? GPIB adapter ? couple of I/O cards ? Got plenty of those laying around. Or, if you are into video editing , some fast SDI interfaces and H264/5 accelerators.

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half a dozen individually controlled fan headers
wait, what happened to the water cooling ? must not be very good if you still need 16 fans.
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I2C bus, GPIO bus, SPI bus,
  now we're talking !
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RGB 281* buses, analgoue RGB buses. 
Does that speed up the machine in any way ?
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5Gigabit network adapter + 2.5Gb adapater.
Wifi on the motherboard broken already ?

I'm yanking your chain of course (if you haven't figured it out yet.)
Like i said i gave up building machines. All that remains are crappy overclocked motherboards with shit chipsets, badly written biosses and eye-watering bling-bling.
Show me one stable machine that can run rock solid for years on end. It won't be assembled from those kind of parts. It'll be a very expensive piece of Dell or HP kit properly designed , cooled and powered sitting in a climate controlled room somewhere.
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2022, 09:52:12 pm »
I hope all those pretty lights and illuminated logos improve its performance, it would be terrible if they were pointless.

Chris, do come along chap, we did that 10 posts ago.
Oops, sorry. I got dazzled.  :D

You should see what he does when we pull out the laser pointer.
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2022, 10:01:06 pm »
I hope all those pretty lights and illuminated logos improve its performance, it would be terrible if they were pointless.

Chris, do come along chap, we did that 10 posts ago.
Oops, sorry. I got dazzled.  :D

You should see what he does when we pull out the laser pointer.
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Re: New PC build p0rn photos.
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2022, 03:22:45 am »
You find me a good spec'ed motherboard which DOESNT have RGB.

Where it was an option, I went with the non-RGB option.  You'd be surprised how limiting that can be though.  If you start out by searching for "No god damn unicorn vomit", you find yourself browsing the corporate thin client components.
I have yet to find a server board with RGB, granted you'll probably have to buy used to get a reasonable price. It most likely would also include a CPU or two (still top notch performance if not too old) and support for more RAM than you're likely to use anytime soon. The cooling design isn't going to get skimped on either and if you're lucky, it would have a high ambient option (e.g. Dell Fresh Air) that improves things even more.
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Cooling and fans, and their proper configuration, alignment, flows and control is somewhere I spend money because I know it's value in using auto-overclocking components that if you keep them cool, the run faster.  Add £200 to the price of the graphics card itself just for cooling, will usually net you another 20-25% over all performance.  Same for the CPU.
The best fans available don't even have RGB options, just loads of power with high quality bearings and variable speed control.
Sounds like you missed the fun stuff.  The big change requiring the tower (and mines a MIDI Tower) is the amount of power these things consume and thus the heat they produce.  320W for just the video card.  Another 120-140W for the CPU.  Another 100W for the mainboard.  That's a LOT of heat to get rid of.  "Why get rid?", all modern components will slow themselves down to remain within thermal limits and stability.  So your lovely 4.6Ghz processor in your latest Z workstation with it's rubbish, "to a budget" cooler, rapidly drops it's clocks to 3.8Ghz as it can't handle the heat output at 4.6Ghz.  You might as well have bought the 3.8Ghz beside it for £300 cheaper.
I doubt a proper *workstation* is going to compromise much on thermal design.
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