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Offline Cyberdragon

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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2021, 06:45:33 pm »
Good luck finding everyone who's ever been on a plane that may have had a UFO encounter and was sitting on the right side and looking out the window and wasn't napping or listening to music and caring only about their vacation and the latest pop culture. Even if they did see something nowadays they'd be like, "ooh look, weird light...ah, it's gone now. I wonder what the latest Justin Bieber song is?"
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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2021, 07:05:19 pm »
Maybe this is somewhat akin to the way humans use laser pointers to confuse cats and dogs and watch them run around in a demented fashion. The aliens are probably sat back somewhere saying "aww, bless 'em, little humans, they can't even take a focused picture of us, cure world hunger or solve gender inequality and they dream of living on Mars, how cute".

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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2021, 07:52:55 pm »
You don't need to find everyone. And yes, people sleep and listen to music. But there bound to be some evidence if UFOs so abundant as those recent documentaries seems to portray.

"Researching" pixels on a low res video is a waste no matter what. It is one step away from looking for Yeti on trail cameras.
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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #53 on: May 20, 2021, 09:06:16 pm »
I think its some kind of ball lightning plasma phase thing. there is alot of weird stuff floating around the atmosphere, maybe it makes a strange particle, condensate, phase of some kind when struck by lighting that is metastable.we make weird stuff in the lab with weird conditions. i still can't explain the weird spherical spark thing that came out of the power strip when the MOV blew in that thread, but it was not grey, but the way it navigated out of the power strip without scorching everything made it seem like it has some kind of natural tendency for 'terrain following' with repulsive forces. or maybe its something weird that comes out from underseas vents from magma.

Perhaps it has something to do with nuclear testing (why this is a more recent phenomena), having to do with the decay chains of nuclear dust in the air made by testing making specific isotopes prone to catalyzing/stabilizing/forming these spheres. Also might have to do with changing the atmospheric composition with CO2 and greenhouse gas emissions, this must have a effect on refraction, ionization, etc. Just global temperature change alone maybe has some kind of spawning pool of these things form some where in the air because of stratification of different kinds, and it might be related to solar flares and particle fluxes. There is plenty of explanations other then 'we have become a sufficiently advanced civilization to attract contact'. I think its some kind of bizzaro waste product from industrial or military activity. HAARP? We also did some strange stuff like spread dust for rain formation (silver is highly conductive and normally not scattered in the atmosphere). But I believe that

1) nature can form round plasma objects, having seen one
2) billions of reactions that can be catalyzed by really weird man made shit
3) can be some kind of weird particle analogous to a WIMP (hypothetical weakly interacting massive particle), it has visual presence but very little mass and friction (super conductor version of friction). Maybe its a single atom hit by a weird particle like a strangelet (who knows what they can do) that changes nuclear force to make it act differently but still be cohesive and some how turn visible.

I think if we captured one it might have interesting results in physics.

I would suggest two aircraft fly between it and then shoot a laser through it into a receiver to measure its transmission. they should be drones because if its doing something weird with nuclear forces and light maybe it can jump between photons to induce a voltage or something strange like that. it should be treated with caution.

Also things like superconductors are being produced fairly widely right now (even if specialized and in small amounts), since this is handled often at a university level you might assume the containment is poor and some stuff does get into the air and maybe have some kind of strange interaction with lightning.
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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2021, 09:41:47 pm »
Organizing two aircraft is definitely impossible at this point if we can't have even one of them film it well.
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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2021, 09:55:31 pm »
They only appear for people who believe 8), I've seen three. :o

There are some photos and videos taken by passengers on aircraft, some of them look a lot more like a craft than a blob. :scared:
Whatever they are, around 5,000 recorded sightings are confirmed by radar.
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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2021, 11:54:32 pm »
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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #57 on: May 26, 2021, 07:52:21 pm »
This is mostly a recruitment drive....and some people want to write books. And of course most UFO's are birds, drones, etc.

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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2021, 02:48:26 am »
Maybe the military are looking at new ways to acquire funding....?  Make a plan, get a few pilots on board, set up some scenarios and run some out-of-focus video then turn to congress for a modest budget in a two-step process.  (As well as getting some money up front, it is important to groom your audience so they are in a more receptive frame of mind for really "big" news.)  Use that funding for the construction of a Cecil B. DeMille epic to score the big bucks.  Maybe this could end up seeing the Strategic Defense Initiative revitalised and the Star Wars weapons realised - so that we can defend ourselves from "alien attack".



Here's a question:  What is the distribution of these Unidentified Aerial Phenomena around the world?
 

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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #59 on: June 08, 2021, 04:21:56 pm »
There are too many pieces that just don't add up.  If military aviators are seeing these objects routinely in a well-defined geographic area (with restricted flight access), wouldn't someone have eventually escalated the issue as a safety or national-security concern?  At that point, there are a lot of resources that could have been brought to bear on the investigation - specialized military equipment and personnel, civilian agencies like NASA and NOAA that have planes and ships with all kinds of cameras and sensors, FAA radar, spy satellites, etc. 

We should be seeing a lot more than blobs on low-res IR video.  How about time-synchronized observations from multiple platforms and sensors?

Supposedly these objects have approached Navy planes at such close range that pilots have gotten photos showing surface texture.  Where are those pics?   
 

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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2021, 04:40:36 pm »
It is easy to say "bring people and specialized equipment". People do not work for free, equipment cost money. It has to be a project with a justification, budget, planning, all at minimum 1 year in advance. What are your chances to instantiate such project? Projects have Requirements , Objectives, Business Case, yada yada yada. And what chances are that the phenomenon is going to be still observed when the project starts a year from now. Who wants to be accountable for the deliverables and what the deliverables are in the first place?
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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #61 on: June 08, 2021, 05:08:32 pm »
Supposedly these objects have approached Navy planes at such close range that pilots have gotten photos showing surface texture.  Where are those pics?

And that really leads to an interesting question in my mind. What would be the type of picture that would lead to a determination of it being an extraterrestrial craft? Can any picture (or video) convince any rational person of that? Or would it require the actual craft being in a hanger?  :-//
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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2021, 05:33:00 pm »
And that really leads to an interesting question in my mind. What would be the type of picture that would lead to a determination of it being an extraterrestrial craft? Can any picture (or video) convince any rational person of that? Or would it require the actual craft being in a hanger?  :-//

At this point, given the poor quality of the images we've seen so far, I'd be thrilled just to see a photo which shows that the UAPs are physical, artificial objects, regardless of their possible origin.
 

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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2021, 06:15:39 pm »
It is easy to say "bring people and specialized equipment". People do not work for free, equipment cost money. It has to be a project with a justification, budget, planning, all at minimum 1 year in advance. What are your chances to instantiate such project? Projects have Requirements , Objectives, Business Case, yada yada yada. And what chances are that the phenomenon is going to be still observed when the project starts a year from now. Who wants to be accountable for the deliverables and what the deliverables are in the first place?
It is need to be understood how big organizations work. Building a solar roadway would be more attractive to one than trying to find a black cat in the dark room.

On the other hand, the military and intelligence services - as well as some civilian agencies - are supposed to be ready to respond quickly to possible national-security threats and other emergencies.  They should have resources ready to deploy.  And since the UAPs are seen frequently, there's a good chance of catching them - it's not like they'd be mobilizing a team for a one-time event.
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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #64 on: June 26, 2021, 04:13:31 am »
Fran is fully sucked into the rabbit hole now.

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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2021, 06:25:27 pm »
Again, if UAPs are such a concern to the military that they established a dedicated office to study them, why didn't they throw a full range of sensing technologies at the problem.  Heck, a California highway inspector in his pickup with a Polaroid got better photos in 1965 than we're seeing today: https://www.ocregister.com/2009/10/30/ocs-moment-in-ufo-history/.
 

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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #66 on: June 28, 2021, 01:07:41 am »
Again, if UAPs are such a concern to the military that they established a dedicated office to study them, why didn't they throw a full range of sensing technologies at the problem.  Heck, a California highway inspector in his pickup with a Polaroid got better photos in 1965 than we're seeing today: https://www.ocregister.com/2009/10/30/ocs-moment-in-ufo-history/.

Watch the video, that's what they plan on doing. The whole reason we have crappy pictures is the systems are not designed to take pretty pictures. All they are designed to do is make sure you = alive, enemy = dead. As long as they can do that sufficiently, any additional funtionality would have been a waste of lots of money and pointless. Untill now when we are acknowledging a potential new threat that requires better equipment.
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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #67 on: June 28, 2021, 01:18:58 am »
Again, if UAPs are such a concern to the military that they established a dedicated office to study them, why didn't they throw a full range of sensing technologies at the problem.  Heck, a California highway inspector in his pickup with a Polaroid got better photos in 1965 than we're seeing today: https://www.ocregister.com/2009/10/30/ocs-moment-in-ufo-history/.

Watch the video, that's what they plan on doing. The whole reason we have crappy pictures is the systems are not designed to take pretty pictures. All they are designed to do is make sure you = alive, enemy = dead. As long as they can do that sufficiently, any additional funtionality would have been a waste of lots of money and pointless. Untill now when we are acknowledging a potential new threat that requires better equipment.

oh I don't know, reconnaissance is pretty important to the military. good pictures mean you get good assets. the problem is they switched to satellites for the most part because I assume on the whole it comes out cheaper and faster, at least for a cold war mentality. they should send a U2 or sr71 after it, i think they have top end optics
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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #68 on: June 28, 2021, 05:38:41 am »
Again, if UAPs are such a concern to the military that they established a dedicated office to study them, why didn't they throw a full range of sensing technologies at the problem.  Heck, a California highway inspector in his pickup with a Polaroid got better photos in 1965 than we're seeing today: https://www.ocregister.com/2009/10/30/ocs-moment-in-ufo-history/.

Watch the video, that's what they plan on doing. The whole reason we have crappy pictures is the systems are not designed to take pretty pictures. All they are designed to do is make sure you = alive, enemy = dead. As long as they can do that sufficiently, any additional funtionality would have been a waste of lots of money and pointless. Untill now when we are acknowledging a potential new threat that requires better equipment.

Because until aliens came along the military never had use for high quality photography.  |O

 

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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #69 on: June 28, 2021, 06:53:36 am »
Yes...let's launch a high altitude recon plane to go look at that UFO. After we've donned our pressure suits and done the massive pre-flight checklist...aaaand it's gone...mission abort. :palm:

The whole point is to get better equipment on average planes to capture things as soon as they are spotted.
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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #70 on: June 28, 2021, 11:48:08 am »
There ARE aliens among us and the US government knows it. Just get off a plane from another country and go through US Customs. There is a sign of a queue there marked "Aliens".

Seriously, there is and never has been any evidence of any life from any other planet in the universe besides on Earth. No radio transmissions, no nothing. I believe we are alone until I see a scrap of evidence to the contrary. If we are alone in the universe, that would be far more fantastic than if we were not alone.
 

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« Reply #71 on: June 28, 2021, 12:25:26 pm »
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Re: new Navy pentagon-confirmed UFO videos
« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2021, 12:28:07 pm »
I recon its just a ploy to get more money pumped into there budget, they've just about  worn out  the terrorism card  that has kept  then  going  since  the cold war meal ticket  threat disappeared and need to invent a something new to raise a few quid.
 

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« Reply #73 on: June 28, 2021, 12:54:56 pm »
The first question I ask is why are the majority of UFO's seen by Americans over or near US soil. Why is the rest of the world of not so much interest to these aliens, surely the Russians. chinese and UK/ Europeans are of similar interest.
 

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« Reply #74 on: June 28, 2021, 01:04:07 pm »
maybe usa already has what most people say is a ridiculous budget so the optics on other warplanes and radar resolutions and stuff are not good enough?
 


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