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MK14:

--- Quote from: bd139 on March 14, 2020, 07:16:09 pm ---I really don't like things with microSD cards in myself.
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A £1000 iOS device is a £500-ish phone as well. But you're paying £229 extra for less hassle (integrated high speed storage, better integration, better quality control, much better longevity) and £179 (applecare) on top of that for premium service and support. And I don't mind that.

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That makes a lot of sense, you are convincing me!
But £1,000 is still a powerful enough deterrent, that I won't be getting one, for real, at least not now.
I'd better padlock my wallet, before reading your next post (joke).

It's a bit like the £3.75 no-name branded simple multimeter, versus a £475 Fluke multimeter.
If you are into electronics and use multimeters a lot, the Fluke makes a lot of sense, and is probably well worthwhile.
But if you only want to check if a PP3 9V is still around 9V, once or twice per year. The £3.75 (cheap) multimeter, as long as you DON'T use it for mains voltage work. May be the ideal solution.
bd139:
Haha yes. Exactly that. It's more a Brymen versus a Fluke TBH. The Brymen has an irritating as shit backlight but it does the job  :-DD

On the purchase side of things, I save up for a new one which is a rarity these days. When this phone is EOL I will buy the new one in cash.

I am trying to persuade myself not to buy a Fluke 117 at the moment as a "second" DMM  :-DD
unknownparticle:
My 3 year old Nokia 5 does everything I need and more, and it was £110 on a special deal when I bought it.  Actually, it is my first 'smart' phone! 
It may be a generation thing but almost everything seems ridiculously expensive these days.  One of my other interests is motocycles and prices for those now are insane!  I just refuse to spend £20K plus for a bike!!  Especially when the cliff edge depreciation is taken into account.  I let the fools with credit cards take all the damage then buy something 5 or more years old.  I bought my first newish bike in years 2 years ago, a 2005 MV Agusta 750 Brutale, it's utterly mint, even by my OCD standards, less than 5k miles when I bought it, one owner, almost new tyres, full history, all the docs and keys. £4500.  It was £15K new.  It's AFAF and looks superb, a real joy to ride and even better in the knowledge that I own it outright and didn't murder my finances to buy it.  The latest version is £30K plus!!!!!
MK14:

--- Quote from: unknownparticle on March 14, 2020, 07:33:50 pm ---My 3 year old Nokia 5 does everything I need and more, and it was £110 on a special deal when I bought it.  Actually, it is my first 'smart' phone! 
It may be a generation thing but almost everything seems ridiculously expensive these days.  One of my other interests is motocycles and prices for those now are insane!  I just refuse to spend £20K plus for a bike!!  Especially when the cliff edge depreciation is taken into account.  I let the fools with credit cards take all the damage then buy something 5 or more years old.  I bought my first newish bike in years 2 years ago, a 2005 MV Agusta 750 Brutale, it's utterly mint, even by my OCD standards, less than 5k miles when I bought it, one owner, almost new tyres, full history, all the docs and keys. £4500.  It was £15K new.  It's AFAF and looks superb, a real joy to ride and even better in the knowledge that I own it outright and didn't murder my finances to buy it.  The latest version is £30K plus!!!!!

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Hopefully, buying used, is helping save the planet. As it means something is well made ONCE, then passed on to others, over a long time. Rather than everyone, buying their own, brand new ones, then binning it, after only a few years.
Because lab (electronics) test equipment, is usually designed to last a long time, be repairable and of heavy duty, robust construction. They can make excellent, used purchases.
Like with the big price savings you made, when buying the bike(s). Used for some things, can be really good.

The decreasing quality and longevity levels, of many modern day goods/items. Is probably making them poor value USED, as well. I.e. most/all of their useful life is used up already.   :(
bd139:
Very true. Incidentally and combining two things, I buy my kids refurb phones from giffgaff: https://www.giffgaff.com/mobile-phones/refurbished/apple

I haven't had any that aren't distinguishable from new yet! They don't get new ones because they can afford to do with the spare Nokia 5 (another topic merged!) for a few days  :-DD

Most of my test gear until recently was as old as me :)
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