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New work computers (tech refresh), a conversation looking for ideas
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thm_w:
Build yourself or go with a prebuilt, eg: https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/AMD-Threadripper-Pro (check for reviews, cant remember if this company was any good).

I would avoid Dell as their motherboards + PSUs are almost always proprietary.
SiliconWizard:
+1 for a Threadripper Pro-based workstation at the moment.

As to virtualization, only the actual use case can determine if this is a workable approach, and if this is going to save any dollar (which is dubious depending on the number of workstations, required processing power, and actual availability of someone to administrate all this, which is not necessarily obvious.)
m98:
A bit of a side question as I have a Dell Precision Workstation at work that does perform quite well, are the proprietary Dell Workstation motherboards really inferior to the stuff you get from the likes of Asus or Gigabyte? Guess I would trust Supermicro to be superior, but all the others with their RGB-ultra-xtreme gamer stuff?
nctnico:

--- Quote from: m98 on January 24, 2024, 11:44:33 pm ---A bit of a side question as I have a Dell Precision Workstation at work that does perform quite well, are the proprietary Dell Workstation motherboards really inferior to the stuff you get from the likes of Asus or Gigabyte?

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Quite the opposite. The Dell workstation motherboards are designed to run utterly reliable under high load as the computer crashing costs serious money in lost time. On top of that the higher end Dell systems (like the precission range) have ducts in them to direct airflow to where it is needed and the proprietary motherboard supports that. Over the years I have had quite a few Dell systems and none got retired due to a malfunction.

Some people don't like proprietary motherboards because they can't replace them with a standard motherboard. But that is not the reason you buy a Dell computer; you get a Dell for the reliability and low noise due to the good airflow design.
thm_w:

--- Quote from: m98 on January 24, 2024, 11:44:33 pm ---A bit of a side question as I have a Dell Precision Workstation at work that does perform quite well, are the proprietary Dell Workstation motherboards really inferior to the stuff you get from the likes of Asus or Gigabyte? Guess I would trust Supermicro to be superior, but all the others with their RGB-ultra-xtreme gamer stuff?

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Not really inferior in terms of stock performance no. But if your mobo or PSU dies, finding a drop in replacement is much harder than a generic ATX board. Or if you wanted to upgrade (CPU/GPU), choices may be very limited.
If you care about overclocking, Dell motherboards won't have it in the BIOS. They often leave out basic features like XMP as well (ram speed). So you could end up with RAM that runs slower than it is capable of.

Asus/gigabyte offer a variety of feature levels. If it has mass amounts of RGB its likely overpriced.
I'll take gigabyte over Dell any day, but, I can go into a BIOS and upgrade it and choose some settings. Most people that buy a Dell don't want to touch anything inside their PC.
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