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Offline RJSV

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IMO (My opinion):
   The whole systemic racism thing has to be viewed in the context it has been presented, that is the presidential elections, past and immediate future; all part of the '2024' campaign cycle.
   Racism claims, and discussion will be DROPPED like hot cakes, if better (propaganda) substitute arises.  That means the recent attention on abortion rights, and transgender rights....It has the appearance of trial balloons, whatever route has the most visible effect, on the Nov. 2024 election day.

   That means, yes, those white folks weeping so profusely will then drop the whole racism thing, if or when some other, divisive issue has more pull, with the voters.  No actual care about racism, abortion rights, or whatever...it's election season pretense, which is a pretty sick state of affairs.
They don't actually care, as it's largely just a calculated theater.
I.M.H.O.
 

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I'm not going to bother reading this thread any more because it's too full of guys arguing there's no systemic racism in the U.S. and that it's all about people claiming victimhood.

Yes, there are laws against racism in the U.S., but if any of you think for a minute that those laws stop racism, you're delusional. Not only that, but the Supreme Court has gradually been whittling away the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.

Bye...
"That's not even wrong" -- Wolfgang Pauli
 
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...and race-based "redlining" laws and policies in property purchasing/financing, which weren't fully banned in the US in some form or another until about 50 years ago.
I often see redlining laws described as race based, but everything I've actually read about them says they were affluence based. They affected broke people of all races, and the US has a lot of broke white people.

The vast majority of it [redlining] was a smokescreen for blatantly racist objectives.

Levittown, New York, was a model for suburban growth in post-WW2 America. This was in their town charter:

https://ushistoryscene.com/article/levittown/
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Originally, the Levitts’ racist policy was enshrined in the lease itself, which stipulated that “the tenant agrees not to permit the premises to be used or occupied by any person other than members of the Caucasian race.”  That provision was later struck down in court as unconstitutional, but Bill Levitt continued to enforce racial homogeneity in practice by rejecting would-be black buyers.

https://projects.newsday.com/long-island/levittown-demographics-real-estate/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trailblazers-the-story-of-the-myers-family-in-levittown-pennsylvania

Depending on how old you are (and if you live in the USA of course), these were policies that our grandparents/parents would've experienced and ones whose effects we are still dealing with today.  :(

And like any good engineering problem, acknowledging the origins of the problem is the first step towards correctly solving it/ensuring it doesn't happen again.
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Recent posts, today, indicate that, perhaps Gov. Newsom's California reparations payments, of 1.2 $ million dollars per decendant, might be fair but....oh wait a second, Newsom now saying "Nevermind, we don't have the money....".
Yeah, hilarious tease, but (he) can't deliver on it, and even has quickly now stated that CASH isn't all that important, in reparations, anyway.  Newsom, in same press conference, stated that the Reparations Committee 'went a little overboard',  in the cash proposal, (a commitee he appointed).
   
   See how quick and easy the offer, and cancel that, as they mostly, don't really care, only that pesky election scheduled for 2024 is what matters.  It sure shows that way.
 

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I'm not going to bother reading this thread any more because it's too full of guys arguing there's no systemic racism in the U.S. and that it's all about people claiming victimhood.

Yep, thread locked for bit to calm people down. Maybe we can get this back on topic at some point.
 
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Dilbert got his Karen 3000 AI sex bot  :-DD
 

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Dilbert got his Karen 3000 AI sex bot  :-DD

Being Dilbert I am sure the sexbot leaves him for someone more interesting. 
 

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Being Dilbert I am sure the sexbot leaves him for someone more interesting.

Likely.
BTW, I'm enjoying the twitter subscription thing. Seperate tab where I only get content from people I subscribe to, in this case it's only Adam's so far, but I'm liking how it work. Seems like a good way to get daily content like this.
 

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Dilbert got his Karen 3000 AI sex bot  :-DD

Being Dilbert I am sure the sexbot leaves him for someone more interesting.

Getting a Karen 3000 Ai sexbot doesn't really give enough context to get what the joke might be. Not to me anyway. It's the same as the other one you described where Wally was in jail and has a Bing AI lawyer. Is it important to know why Wally was in jail to get the punch line or isn't there a punch line at all.

I'm starting out with a preconceived notion that Adams is just exploiting an existing extreme right bias in his new subscriber base. Which is necessary to enjoy the comic now that it has forgone a well crafted twist. Maybe there is a twist, I don't know.

Two of my favourite cartoons were a FarSide single panel where a farmer was entering a turkey pen with an axe. The text read "Now whooo's it gonna be". And amongst the turkeys was one with a longer neck and a worried look. The joke being that either Turkeys understand English, what the axe is for or that it was Thanksgiving soon. And that particular Turkey knew it had a long neck and stood out. It is just the typical FarSide absurdity.

Another one which has always stayed with me as a classic was a BC comic tri-panel where BC (the titular caveman) was sitting on a boulder at sunrise with a snail on the left side. Middle panel was noon with the snail in center. Third panel was sunset with the snail on the right. It has taken a whole day for the snail to travel a
short distance. BC says "What a waste, a whole day to go from there to there. The joke being that he hasn't actually moved from the boulder.

Farside and BC were always noted for their absurdist observations which were universally able to be appreciated. Dilbert focused on Corporate and cubical life for its absurd observations. But what does Dilbert do now behind the subscription wall?
 

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Getting a Karen 3000 Ai sexbot doesn't really give enough context to get what the joke might be. Not to me anyway. It's the same as the other one you described where Wally was in jail and has a Bing AI lawyer. Is it important to know why Wally was in jail to get the punch line or isn't there a punch line at all.

Err, yeah, that's the point. I know because I'm subscribed and you aren't.
I'm not going to rip off his strip and post it here.

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Farside and BC were always noted for their absurdist observations which were universally able to be appreciated. Dilbert focused on Corporate and cubical life for its absurd observations. But what does Dilbert do now behind the subscription wall?

Pay the two bucks and find out for a month.
 

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Just checked, Twitter subscription now available. I'm going to join to get Dilbert Reborn.

Got my first two Dilbert comics through Twitter subscriptions, works well.

I'm enjoying my new Twitter subscriber Dilbert strips. Wally is currently in jail, arrested by the FBI for pre-crime, and he has a Bing AI lawyer.

Dilbert got his Karen 3000 AI sex bot  :-DD

BTW, I'm enjoying the twitter subscription thing.

Pay the two bucks and find out for a month.

Boy, you are persistent! Is this about advertising Dilbert, since you feel Adams needs the money, or about advertising paid Twitter feeds, because you hope yours to gain traction?
 
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Back in the day we had a partial cartoon magazines.
There you had to wait the next number for the next part.

I've also tried to support local artists, at least from Hyborian Age.
But when I recently checked market's magazine section it was basically crosswords.
Maybe this new only fans trend will change things, French-Belgian era was much better.
Advance-Aneng-Appa-AVO-Beckman-Danbridge-Data Tech-Fluke-General Radio-H. W. Sullivan-Heathkit-HP-Kaise-Kyoritsu-Leeds & Northrup-Mastech-OR-X-REO-Simpson-Sinclair-Tektronix-Tokyo Rikosha-Topward-Triplett-Tritron-YFE
(plus lesser brands from the work shop of the world)
 

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Boy, you are persistent! Is this about advertising Dilbert,

I dunno, this is the post newspaper Dilbert thread and the discussion is about reincarnated Dilbert. But I know where you are coming from, how dare someone post something on topic. It's just not cricket.
 

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Boy, you are persistent! Is this about advertising Dilbert, since you feel Adams needs the money, or about advertising paid Twitter feeds, because you hope yours to gain traction?

How about
Option 4: Trying to drag this thread back on track.
Option 5: Some people might be interested in what's happening with Dilbert in a thread about Dilbert.

But yes, beaing a large-ish creator I'm also very interested in how the Twitter Subscription system works and how it's going to be received. I'd be stupid not to.
 
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How about
Option 4: Trying to drag this thread back on track.
Option 5: Some people might be interested in what's happening with Dilbert in a thread about Dilbert.

But yes, beaing a large-ish creator I'm also very interested in how the Twitter Subscription system works and how it's going to be received. I'd be stupid not to.

Frankly, I think this thread has run its course.

(a) Adams has lost his syndication deal over his increasingly pointed political views.
(b) Adams has set up paid subscription channels, one for those interested in his broader views, one for those interested only in the Dilbert-ized version of these.

All posts over the past few weeks seem to be either repetitions of (a) or (b), or off-topic digressions.
 
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Being Dilbert I am sure the sexbot leaves him for someone more interesting.

Likely.
BTW, I'm enjoying the twitter subscription thing. Seperate tab where I only get content from people I subscribe to, in this case it's only Adam's so far, but I'm liking how it work. Seems like a good way to get daily content like this.
Side note, the whole twitter ui is very confusing. I've joined something called twitter spaces (someone decided to only have the conversation there), which is like a live audio conversation and honestly I have no idea what was happening, or where do I click or so. It took me like 5 minutes to realize that I can only write (by design) and not talk.
The concept was fine in cca 2011 when you got tweets from people who your followed, and that was it.
Now I feel like 90% of the content there is by randoms, try hard effort to get some reaction from people.
 

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Frankly, I think this thread has run its course.

Easy, don't click on it again.
 
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Side note, the whole twitter ui is very confusing. I've joined something called twitter spaces (someone decided to only have the conversation there), which is like a live audio conversation and honestly I have no idea what was happening, or where do I click or so. It took me like 5 minutes to realize that I can only write (by design) and not talk.
The concept was fine in cca 2011 when you got tweets from people who your followed, and that was it.
Now I feel like 90% of the content there is by randoms, try hard effort to get some reaction from people.

You are looking at the For You tab. That's where is suggests stuff to you it thinks you might like. I think it's working really well recently.
The other tab is Following where you only see tweets from people you follow.
The other is the Subscribed tab where you only see posts from people you pay to subscribe to.

Streets ahead of Twitter 1.0 IMO
 

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Frankly, I think this thread has run its course.

Easy, don't click on it again.

It's not about me.
 
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By pure accident I found this. There is at least one person who thinks as I do. Just goes to show "Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ".
« Last Edit: May 23, 2023, 12:49:49 pm by wilfred »
 
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By pure accident I found this. There is at least one person who thinks as I do. Just goes to show "Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ".
Is this an original? I think due to the format, Scott could totally train an AI to make daily comic strips and we would have no idea that he is doing that. Insert every now and then the building shown from the outside with floating text, gotta reuse that frame.
 

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Frankly, I think this thread has run its course.
Easy, don't click on it again.
It's not about me.

It's entirely about you. You are just using others as an excuse to get a thread locked that you don't like.
Seriously, don't click on it. Some of us like talking about Dilbert, it's an integral part of the engineering community.
 
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Is this an original? I think due to the format, Scott could totally train an AI to make daily comic strips and we would have no idea that he is doing that. Insert every now and then the building shown from the outside with floating text, gotta reuse that frame.

He's actually talked about this very thing quite a bit. His feeling is that it won't work because AI can't "feel" when a joke is funny, it's got no feedback mechanism like that.
Also, AI doesn't do anything new, it's just a language model that uses existing work as a reference and tried to think of variations on that. So it would get stale very quickly.
 

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Frankly, I think this thread has run its course.

Easy, don't click on it again.

It's not about me.

Then what is it about?

If you don't want to participate then why are you still here? Nobody is forcing you to read a thread you're no longer interested in, this forum is filled with threads I've moved on from. I simply stop following them.
 
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In other news, I've lost one of my Dilbert books. Just had it delivered the other month.
Sagan loves reading them, and I swear it's in the lab here somewhere but buggered if I can find it.  >:(
 


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