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Ed.Kloonk:

--- Quote from: tooki on May 27, 2023, 05:24:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: PlainName on May 27, 2023, 09:46:16 am ---
--- Quote ---but if they feel so strongly, where are their own videos?
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Are you saying one needs to be a content creator to be able to have an opinion, or that a comment should only be made via another lengthy and tedious video?

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100% agree. And not just in politics.

Like if you point out a factual error in a tutorial video, and the channel’s acolytes bark back “well if it’s so bad why don’t you make your own tutorial!”  :palm:

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 :palm: :palm: back at you.

We aren't talking about comments regarding a video rather commenters using the service to attack the youtuber for existing.

magic:

--- Quote from: tooki on May 27, 2023, 05:22:38 pm ---That’s why I say that if you have people from both sides accusing you of being the other, you’ve probably got a balanced stance on things. (That’s happened to me over the years many times…)

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If you think that there are only two sides to anything then you are probably an American, and if you are being attacked from all sides by strawman arguments than you have probably found yourself immersed in the inane American politics.

That's all it means. There is 300 million others like you, all equally right and balanced snowflakes.

This is what makes all this bullshit so fun :popcorn:

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: PlainName on May 27, 2023, 11:10:40 am ---Well, putting out a video will likely have an audience of one. Even so, isn't that a high bar to set? It's like saying if you really have to disagree with Scott Adams you should do it in a syndicated cartoon strip.

--- Quote ---A comment will only annoy the video creator and a handful a other people who happen to read it.
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Surely the video creator is the person they want to read the comment. The rest are irrelevant; just bystanders. Unless one is playing to the gallery, of course, but that's what twitter's for.

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That's what it is my my case, they are actively tragetting me directly. A few of them will send a personal email, but most know that if they leave a comment then it could get Liked by other people to help reinforce their message.
They like me and my videos but absolutely detest that I dare to follow, watch, or otherwise interact with another creator they do not like. And they will verbally bully me into denouncing this creator and severing all ties with them. It it 100% bully cancel culture. They cannot be argued with, as they do not discuss in good faith.
And IME, all of them have been on the radical social justice left.

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 28, 2023, 08:40:54 am ---
--- Quote from: PlainName on May 27, 2023, 11:10:40 am ---Well, putting out a video will likely have an audience of one. Even so, isn't that a high bar to set? It's like saying if you really have to disagree with Scott Adams you should do it in a syndicated cartoon strip.

--- Quote ---A comment will only annoy the video creator and a handful a other people who happen to read it.
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Surely the video creator is the person they want to read the comment. The rest are irrelevant; just bystanders. Unless one is playing to the gallery, of course, but that's what twitter's for.

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That's what it is my my case, they are actively tragetting me directly. A few of them will send a personal email, but most know that if they leave a comment then it could get Liked by other people to help reinforce their message.
They like me and my videos but absolutely detest that I dare to follow, watch, or otherwise interact with another creator they do not like. And they will verbally bully me into denouncing this creator and severing all ties with them. It it 100% bully cancel culture. They cannot be argued with, as they do not discuss in good faith.
And IME, all of them have been on the radical social justice left.

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Over here the radical libertarian right is just as bad. They tolerate no dissent, and are in the process of rebranding themselves "national conservatives". As far I as they can see they are the same as "national socialists".

There's a less clear cut debate as well. If the artist is abhorrent, what should you do about their works? Take, for example, Eric Gill inventor of the Gill Sans typeface and many other famous works. His statue of  Prospero and Ariel outside the BBC headquarters has just been defaced again. Apparently...
--- Quote ---... his  crimes, which only came to light when biographer Fiona MacCarthy published his diary confessions. Gill wrote about abusing his daughters, interfering with his dog and having sex with at least one of his sisters. Horribly, but perhaps predictably, these secret acts went along with a Catholic socialist idealism and a belief in art as a messianic instrument
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My starting point is not to destroy his work or otherwise cancel him, but to put up plaques reminding people of his crimes.

.RC.:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on May 28, 2023, 09:26:49 am ---
Over here the radical libertarian right is just as bad. They tolerate no dissent, and are in the process of rebranding themselves "national conservatives". As far I as they can see they are the same as "national socialists".



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Different sides of the same coin.  But they are everywhere it is not just confined to political viewpoints.  Go ask on a popular Australian forum that has a section about DIY abut how to go about wiring up a mains light in your house.  Grab the popcorn and watch the fireworks. Although these days such a question would be shut down by the moderators as they know how it is going to end up.

There are a plethora of people out there hell bent on ordering you how to run your life, often backed up by some stupid law.  I am at the stage where I think we are on a downhill run when it comes to what I call freedoms and we peaked a decade or two or three ago.


--- Quote ---  If the artist is abhorrent, what should you do about their works?
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I take it no one in the UK broke out the wobble board last week?  But it no doubt created joy for people in the long distant past.

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