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EEVblog:

--- Quote from: tszaboo on March 08, 2023, 11:53:07 pm ---Is it worth watching his videos? I'm kinda looking for something to listen to in the background.
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If you are after life advice with analysis of daily news filtered through the lens of a hypnotist persuasion expert, then yes, worth it. Or if you just like sarcasm and trolling, also worth it.
The latest ones have of course been majority about the incident, so listen to older ones if you want to avoid that.
He does whiteboard stuff occasionally, but easily audio podcastable in the background.

wilfred:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 07, 2023, 06:39:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: wilfred on March 07, 2023, 01:49:16 pm ---If half the population support Adams then presumably the other half don't. Then a population sized mob would be evenly matched. What pressure would the mob apply to the platforms? Even if the mob applying pressure was a subset of the population it would have to be an unrepresentative subset of the population to move the needle towards cancellation.
I think the pressure is more likely to come from advertisers and they themselves are vulnerable to financial pressure from the mob.

Adams may well be better off ultimately if he creates an audience drawn from those attuned to his message on a platform that is supportive.

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Because those of us that support Adam' right to say something controversial are not the mob types, we believe that ganging up and bullying a person is fundamentally wrong. We believe in laws, and applying those laws equally across all citizens. We don't behave like spoiled brat children and throw a tantrum every time we don't get our way. "The mob" is only a very small portion of the population, it is an extremely loud minority that actively engage in bullying, primarily via social media.

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Well that is what I was saying. Dave said "Again you don't get what the problem actually is. I'm pretty sure half the population support or at least understand the context of what Adam's said, and do not support his cancellation, yet here we are.
Why? Because those in power at the platforms and publishers bend to the will of the mob,"

How does a small mob carry any influence if half the population support Adams? Which is why I said even if a mob comprising the other half of the population try to cancel him there is and evenly balanced situation for and against.

Hence I came to the conclusion that Dave was incorrect in saying "Why? Because those in power at the platforms and publishers bend to the will of the mob,"
They actually bend to the will of the advertisers with money who in turn bend to the will of the mob ie. their customers.

A small vocal mob does not have the volume to harm Adams as long as he stays true to what he believes is right. This is revealed in the case of the lawsuit by Dominion against Fox News. If there were no revealing admissions from Fox insiders that they knew all along the election was fair but lied for profit anyway they might have toughed it out.

Nominal Animal:

--- Quote from: wilfred on March 09, 2023, 03:38:03 am ---How does a small mob carry any influence if half the population support Adams?
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Because those who support Adams are not willing to fight against the small mob.

Here, the small mob is the small group of young, liberal sociopolitical activists, who have close ties with Finnish media.  For example, the subset of "experts" the Finnish public broadcast company Yle uses, is about 75% the same as the "progressivist activist group" trying to keep everyone towing to the same line in social media and elsewhere.  (About 85% of reporters here self-describe leftist political views.)  Anyone speaking against them, is a transphobic racist Putinist, regardless of the actual topic.

The rest of the people do not see the issues worth starting a fight with the activist group.  They disagree, but will say so only when they know they won't be targeted, because they'd rather not fight with them.

Again, the tactic by the small mob is universal.  It is not to win every battle, but to make fighting against them too risky and expensive –– socially speaking, in this case –– so that they win by default.

Sure, you can just say that "that's their choice; if they wanted to really support, they'd speak against the mob".  The issue with that is in psychology.  The Overton window is moving exactly because the sides are not equally willing to use the same tactics to force their views on others.  It is exactly those who are willing to use the nastiest social weaponry (excommunication/labeling/cancellation, historically speaking) and manipulation, that are making headway in moving the Overton window the way they want; and that indeed seems to vary both geographically and in time.  Fifty years ago, it was the status quo conservatives here, now it is the far left globalist liberals.  I'm trying to denounce the entire tactic, because it never makes things better.

james_s:
Yes, that. The mob is almost entirely on social media, social media is very heavily biased toward young and left to far left leaning people, that's just who is statistically using it. I disagree strongly with this mob, but I have no interest in forming my own mob of online bullies and I have no interest in tangling myself up in that drama. This is exactly why there is not an evenly split mob. It is one certain type of person that is attracted to that behavior, young, arrogant, SJW types, the bullying is a part of their culture, not mine. I don't even use social media unless you count this forum.

tszaboo:

--- Quote from: tszaboo on March 08, 2023, 09:13:35 am ---I figured out what's wrong with the download script I've been using. Every Sunday comic is jpeg instead of gif after 2000, so that's why it wasn't downloading it well. I had to fix it a few places, but it seems to work now. When I have some time I'll make it available on github.

https://gist.github.com/tszaboo/fb9aaff88f802c3a1de961faddc60fbc
Forked from BaloneyGeek. It seems to work ok now, but the script is not near perfect. Hacked exceptions and stuff like that. If someone has more patience for programming pls fix.

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I had to run the script a few times, but it was able to download all the comics in the end, so I'm calling it good enough.

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