General > General Technical Chat
Dilbert loses newspapers, publishers, distributor, and possibly its website
james_s:
--- Quote from: coppice on March 10, 2023, 09:36:59 am ---In The US pretty much every immigrant group does better than the people whose families have been there for generations. Black immigrants do better on average then long term white Americans.
--- End quote ---
I suspect that's because immigrating here, especially doing so legally requires significant effort, so you automatically get a bias toward people that are motivated self-starters that want a piece of the "American dream". They come here looking to make a better life for themselves and their families, they come here by choice because they believe in what we as a nation have to offer. Those that have been here for generations have usually never known real hardship, they don't know how good they have it here, they take it for granted and squander their opportunity.
james_s:
--- Quote from: JohanH on March 10, 2023, 08:19:24 am ---Here I strongly disagree. "Positive discrimination", or some kind of supportive actions, is needed in the beginning for any group in society that doesn't currently have equal rights. The mass of the majority will always by itself suppress minorities somehow, intentionally or unintentionally. How this support is done is another question. There will be individuals in the minority groups that will overstep (e.g. these overreactions that you talk about), but there is no need for people in the majority to feel threatened. As soon as a minority group no longer feel threatened, such incidents will diminish.
--- End quote ---
Nonsense. There is no such thing as "positive discrimination", it is discrimination, period, and in most civilized nations it is blatantly illegal. It seems to be acceptable to break the law these days though.
james_s:
--- Quote from: JohanH on March 10, 2023, 12:58:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on March 10, 2023, 12:43:51 pm ---
So what women are not equal? We know that. They're are innate differences between the sexes, which are nothing to do with society and law.
The statistics you cite, don't prove women don't have equal rights to men, just they are more likely to be killed by men. This is because men are physically stronger than women and have higher testosterone levels, making them more prone to violent behaviour. By the same logic, you could argue men are subjugated by women, as they have a shorter life expectancy than women. Perhaps the healthcare system discriminates against men, who were much more likely to die from SARS-Cov-2 infection.
--- End quote ---
With such twisted logic, we will surely plunge back to medieval times.
--- End quote ---
Huh? Twisted? Everything he said is objectively true, what part do you disagree with?
james_s:
--- Quote from: JohanH on March 10, 2023, 12:15:29 pm ---I am. Even though the Nordic countries top statistics in equality and lot of other things, Finland is still one of Europe's most dangerous countries when it comes to violence against women from people in close relationships. This is statistics from the government (Finnish and Swedish only) https://valtioneuvosto.fi/-/10616/lahisuhdevakivalta-aiheuttaa-tutkimuksen-mukaan-merkittavasti-kustannuksia-terveys-sosiaali-ja-oikeuspalveluissa Every other woman has experienced violence in a relationship and 15-30 women die yearly due to violence in a relationship.
This is only one example.
--- End quote ---
This is called cherry picking. What are the percentages for workplace fatalities of men vs women in your country? How about the suicide rates? How about emotional abuse? Do you think physical violence is the only kind of violence and abuse that happens in relationships? Women have it easier in general, men get the shaft, of course if you cherry pick statistics and ignore anything that doesn't support your assertion you can make them say anything you want.
TimFox:
--- Quote from: james_s on March 10, 2023, 05:50:36 pm ---
--- Quote from: Tomorokoshi on March 10, 2023, 03:54:15 am ---
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on March 10, 2023, 02:42:47 am ---Yep. The orwellian program is actually progressing at an alarming rate, and it's no joke. I think many people will figure it out when it's too late.
--- End quote ---
In what way, specifically?
--- End quote ---
In lots of ways.
Here is one specific example, editing classic books to remove offensive language, an easy one that was picked up by mainstream news outlets but it is far from the only one. The edited books will have the same title, they're presented as the same book except they're not.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/license-edit-ian-flemings-james-bond-novels-be-edited-remove-racist-content/Q74LY2FAWRFWRMIAXXUR7XAJCU/
I would certainly call quietly altering books orwellian, that was a central theme of '1984' from which the phrase 'orwellian' originated.
--- End quote ---
With respect to "classic" James Bond novels:
Long before the current bowdlerization, the original Fleming novels were replaced with novelizations of the film scripts.
This was done strictly for commercial reasons by the capitalist owners of the copyrights.
I'm not sure which versions are currently available.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version