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james_s:

--- Quote from: coppice on March 10, 2023, 10:14:32 pm ---That is the usual claim made, but there doesn't seem much hard research to see what the real issue is. In the US both African and Carribean immigrants do well. In the UK African immigrants do much better than Carribean immigrants. That doesn't seem to fit your model.

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There are probably additional factors involved. It would be nice if we could study this sort of thing without people immediately flipping out and attacking the motivation behind the study.

Perhaps it there are additional reasons behind why some people from a particular country would choose the UK vs the USA. I doubt the average US or UK citizen would be able to look at someone from Africa or the Carribean and tell which place they're from, so I think the discrepancy is unlikely to be caused by prejudice.

coppice:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 10, 2023, 10:19:53 pm ---Perhaps it there are additional reasons behind why some people from a particular country would choose the UK vs the USA. I doubt the average US or UK citizen would be able to look at someone from Africa or the Carribean and tell which place they're from, so I think the discrepancy is unlikely to be caused by prejudice.

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Really? Do you have serious difficulty telling Africans from Carribeans from locals? They have very different cultures.

iMo:
Frankly, it sounds funny to me when the people call today everything "progressive", or "woke", or "somehow left" marxistic. They have a little understanding of history, imho. Marxism has been created around 1850. The russian bolsheviks in 1917 (~70 years after marxism has been created) were looking for a "new" philosophy, easily applicable into the ecosystem of the russian feudalism, helping them jumping over the stage of a "capitalism" straight into a "new bolsheviks socialism",  backing their bolsheviks politics in russia - and they chose marxism (being almost unknown at that time, forgotten and gathering dust, being the best fit for Lenin at that time, perhaps because he was infiltrated by Germans - btw. the vast majority of russian bolsheviks were quite surprised with that theory Lenin and Co. started to mess with and afaik they considered it strange and were not happy with it). And soon they started to interpret all that marxistic stuff at their will, making "world" politics, and export it as the tool for their imperialistic efforts.. Calling anything to be "marxistic" these days is a BS.. With no bolsheviks like Lenin and Co. in 1917 the "marxism" will be an unknown category today..

james_s:

--- Quote from: coppice on March 10, 2023, 10:24:57 pm ---Really? Do you have serious difficulty telling Africans from Carribeans from locals? They have very different cultures.

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I wouldn't know, I don't know the first thing about Africa or the Caribbean other than they are both predominantly dark skinned people. Africa is an entire continent consisting of dozens of countries, the Caribbean is also a large and diverse region. I expect both have widely varying cultures and physical appearances. I'm not sure how I would know which one a person is from.

coppice:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 10, 2023, 10:54:47 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on March 10, 2023, 10:24:57 pm ---Really? Do you have serious difficulty telling Africans from Carribeans from locals? They have very different cultures.

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I wouldn't know, I don't know the first thing about Africa or the Caribbean other than they are both predominantly dark skinned people. Africa is an entire continent consisting of dozens of countries, the Caribbean is also a large and diverse region. I expect both have widely varying cultures and physical appearances. I'm not sure how I would know which one a person is from.

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True, but most of the emigrants come from one of a few locations, so the people who have migrated to America and Europe are much less diverse than Africa.

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