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Dilbert loses newspapers, publishers, distributor, and possibly its website

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james_s:

--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on March 15, 2023, 06:28:47 am ---
--- Quote from: ebastler on March 14, 2023, 09:59:16 pm ---"I question whether a law banning X should exist."
~ "I don't think a law banning X should exist."

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I vehemently disagree.

The verb question can be understood in either neutral way, "to interrogate, to ask for information", or in a negative way, "to raise/have doubts about".  Neither of them equates to an assertion.  Therefore, your approximation is incorrect.

In other words,

"I question whether a law banning X should exist."
~ "I would like to know whether a law banning X should exist." / "I have doubts whether a law banning X should exist."

See?

Edit: In particular, note the interrogative in both interpretations.

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I'm really thinking at this point that the people that cannot make this distinction are "binary thinkers" that view things as absolutes. Questioning or having doubts about something is literally the same as thinking it is wrong/bad because there is no gray area whatsoever for them, everything is either good or bad, right or wrong, liberal or conservative. I have a really difficult time grasping this way of thinking because to me virtually everything is some shade of gray, there are almost no absolutes outside of textbook concepts but it certainly seems that many people do perceive the world in this way.

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: Siwastaja on March 15, 2023, 06:22:23 am ---However, I don't think cancel culture could be fought against by concentrating on the cancel mob. They are beyond salvation, and finally, they have freedom of speech, too. The solution is to stop giving way to the extortion tactics. For example, trust your employees and your own set of rules and don't fire them only because someone asked you to. The actual dirty work is always done by people who do not support the cancel mob or cancel culture, out of stupidity, laziness, fear, or combination thereof. This is the problem.

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I don't even think Adam's syndication company got direct mob pressure themselves, I think they just saw the headlines, some papers dropping him, and they pre-emptively cancelled him out of fear of possible retribution and fall-out from it.
So all it took was one person/company to cave and Adam's lost 80% of his income and his website and book deals etc.

tszaboo:

--- Quote from: TimFox on March 14, 2023, 05:07:57 pm ---Back to Dilbert itself:
At the end of the previous millennium, there was a short-lived (two seasons) animated version of Dilbert on US television.
I noticed that it was actually more bitter than the newspaper version at that time.
Nevertheless, my favorite was the ninth episode of the first series, on the topic of Y2K, as Dilbert's workplace faces the problem of an obsolescent IT system.
It traced the problem back to 1975, when Wally was a fresh young engineer, not yet broken.
When he started there, the senior staff showed him around and pointed out that they used two places to indicate the year (i.e. "87", not "1987").
He asked, "won't that be a problem in 25 years?", to which the staff laughed.

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Yes the Dilbert television is great, and really enjoyable. I don't think its on any platforms now, and after this I don't think anyone would pick it up, so its lost for the masses.


--- Quote from: EEVblog on March 15, 2023, 08:33:37 am ---
--- Quote from: Siwastaja on March 15, 2023, 06:22:23 am ---However, I don't think cancel culture could be fought against by concentrating on the cancel mob. They are beyond salvation, and finally, they have freedom of speech, too. The solution is to stop giving way to the extortion tactics. For example, trust your employees and your own set of rules and don't fire them only because someone asked you to. The actual dirty work is always done by people who do not support the cancel mob or cancel culture, out of stupidity, laziness, fear, or combination thereof. This is the problem.

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I don't even think Adam's syndication company got direct mob pressure themselves, I think they just saw the headlines, some papers dropping him, and they pre-emptively cancelled him out of fear of possible retribution and fall-out from it.
So all it took was one person/company to cave and Adam's lost 80% of his income and his website and book deals etc.

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So he went with locals, and with a 70$ a year subscription. It's more than amazon prime  >:( This is usually the comparison that I make when someone sets up a subscription for something trivial, and virtual. By the looks of it, about half the content is supporters only. Unfortunately, he decided to make half the Dilbert comics supporter only  :(.
TBH I don't really like locals, and I didn't see any improvement in a year. The built in player is bad compared to Youtube. The main stream is filled with content from other people (which I frankly don't care about). No way to filter for video content only.

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: tszaboo on March 15, 2023, 09:28:27 am ---So he went with locals, and with a 70$ a year subscription. It's more than amazon prime  >:( This is usually the comparison that I make when someone sets up a subscription for something trivial, and virtual. By the looks of it, about half the content is supporters only. Unfortunately, he decided to make half the Dilbert comics supporter only  :(.
TBH I don't really like locals, and I didn't see any improvement in a year. The built in player is bad compared to Youtube. The main stream is filled with content from other people (which I frankly don't care about). No way to filter for video content only.
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He's always been a top tier creator on Locals, and he's an investor of some description in the company I believe. So makes sense he's heavily promoting it. But to have that as your only outlet seems like a really dumb move.
I set up a Locals page way back and promoted it but hardly anyone used it. And yeah, it was quirky to use. So I dropped some time back.
Yes, $70/year just for a cartoon is too much. he offers other stuff in therem, but hardly any of his existing Dilbert audience would be interested in that.
116k followers on Locals and only 131 thumbs and 29 comments on his latest Man Cave stream.
I think he'd be way better off selling it for $2/month on Twitter Subscriptions to his 1M followers.

Zero999:

--- Quote from: aeberbach on March 14, 2023, 05:55:55 am ---Simple: "cancel culture" is what they call it when one of their own experiences consequences. "f*** around and find out" is what they call it when someone else experiences consequences.

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Consequences for what?

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