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Dilbert loses newspapers, publishers, distributor, and possibly its website
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EEVblog:

--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on March 16, 2023, 12:44:49 am ---Sometimes there's a fine line here.
And just "words" can have a devastating effect on someone's "online reputation", which may not matter one bit if you don't have a public exposure, and even less so if you're essentially anonymous, but words can go as far as destroying your life otherwise.
It's not the words per se, but the reaction they cause in others. You can control how you receive those words for sure, but you can't control how all others do.
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I have long time fans who now absolutely hate my guts and think I'm a *insert -ism - phobe" piece of shite because they saw someone out of context post of mine reposted somewhere. If people are pre-disposed to that sort of reactionary thinking then literally the smallest thing you say can trigger them off. Even just following someone like Adams and still liking Dilbert will be enough to trigger them.
It's just an unfortunate fact of moden social conditioning and outrage culture.
Nominal Animal:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on March 16, 2023, 02:24:20 am ---I have long time fans who now absolutely hate my guts and think I'm a *insert -ism - phobe" piece of shite because they saw someone out of context post of mine reposted somewhere. If people are pre-disposed to that sort of reactionary thinking then literally the smallest thing you say can trigger them off. Even just following someone like Adams and still liking Dilbert will be enough to trigger them.
It's just an unfortunate fact of moden social conditioning and outrage culture.

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In academia, especially lecturing, 'networking' and 'reputation' is key, and this sort of stuff is career death.

But until it happens to oneself or a close associate, most people just do not believe it could happen to them.  Weird.
EEVblog:

--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on March 16, 2023, 05:03:22 am ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on March 16, 2023, 02:24:20 am ---I have long time fans who now absolutely hate my guts and think I'm a *insert -ism - phobe" piece of shite because they saw someone out of context post of mine reposted somewhere. If people are pre-disposed to that sort of reactionary thinking then literally the smallest thing you say can trigger them off. Even just following someone like Adams and still liking Dilbert will be enough to trigger them.
It's just an unfortunate fact of moden social conditioning and outrage culture.

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In academia, especially lecturing, 'networking' and 'reputation' is key, and this sort of stuff is career death.

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Which is why just the fear of cancel culture works, it keeps people silent. Head down and shut up.


--- Quote ---But until it happens to oneself or a close associate, most people just do not believe it could happen to them.  Weird.
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Yup. Let's just say this has happened to more than one left learning woke friend of mine. And also friends of other creators who are equally "problematic" like I am. If you aren't 100% towing the line they'll eat you alive.
And yes, it's practically a 100% left leaning phenomenom. The "right" seem to just shrug their shoulders and go, meh.
nctnico:

--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on March 16, 2023, 05:03:22 am ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on March 16, 2023, 02:24:20 am ---I have long time fans who now absolutely hate my guts and think I'm a *insert -ism - phobe" piece of shite because they saw someone out of context post of mine reposted somewhere. If people are pre-disposed to that sort of reactionary thinking then literally the smallest thing you say can trigger them off. Even just following someone like Adams and still liking Dilbert will be enough to trigger them.
It's just an unfortunate fact of moden social conditioning and outrage culture.

--- End quote ---
In academia, especially lecturing, 'networking' and 'reputation' is key, and this sort of stuff is career death.

But until it happens to oneself or a close associate, most people just do not believe it could happen to them.  Weird.

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But isn't the problem at the receiving end? People jumping to conclusions too quickly? It is much like the good old lynching parties. Doesn't matter if someone is guilty, just hang from a tree or burn alive! Maybe society is evolving backwards and internet & media has become a way to visit the Colosseum to see how the 'royals du jour' dressed up and who gets butchered today.

I tend to agree with Dave that the problem is in the society -if that is what he is suggesting-.
Nominal Animal:

--- Quote from: nctnico on March 16, 2023, 10:42:44 am ---Maybe society is evolving backwards and internet & media has become a way to visit the Colosseum to see how the 'royals du jour' dressed up and who gets butchered today.
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Bread and circuses have always worked, and always will.  We're no different in our base needs now than we were a couple of millenia ago.

While individuals are complex, mobs or herd mentality brings out their base needs and drowns out everything else.  Everyone should know about the Asch conformity experiments, and think about what the results mean.  It is a large part of why and how agitation and propaganda works –– and why ads work! ––, by presenting a world where only one opinion or choice is conformant to a specific narrative or story.  Even if there technically are other options, herd mentality will drive the majority to choose the conforming option – at least if they wish to adopt the narrative.


--- Quote from: nctnico on March 16, 2023, 10:42:44 am ---But isn't the problem at the receiving end? People jumping to conclusions too quickly?
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My opinion is that we need individuals that resist being part of such mobs.  This involves a cultural push to emphasize individual thought and the ability to debate every possible subject, including opinions and things considered "beyond questioning".

It involves things like teaching people that racism isn't something 'evil people' do.  It is something related to the in-group preference and out-group rejection that increases cohesion in mid-sized (larger than extended family, but not urban) societies, and the psychological machinery in each human that is involved in that.  It is something every individual has in varying degrees, and has to recognize in themselves, accept, and work out; there is no group that is completely free of this preference.  Evolution affects us all.  To be healthy, we – as individuals – must control it in ourselves, just like we need to exercise and control our caloric intake, because the majority of humans will lapse into sessile obesity given the option.

Or maybe I'm just naïve, and don't understand how the real world works.  :-//
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