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| TimFox:
--- Quote from: fourfathom on March 17, 2023, 09:33:48 pm --- --- Quote from: TimFox on March 17, 2023, 06:06:38 pm ---There are several rating agencies for "D&I" and "ESG". My brokerage lists their ratings on common stocks, for those who are interested. The NY Times merely quoted those agencies to determine "wokeness". Why should I distrust their quotation compared to unsupported comments from politicians? --- End quote --- Tim, I've not read the NYT article, and I also doubt that "Woke" had much to do with the SVB failure, but aren't these rating agencies looking at the diversity of the employees? This isn't exactly what has been claimed about the failure of the bank. Rather, it was suggested that the bank executives spent too much tine on DEI and not enough on financial risk management. I guess it's obvious (now) that they had poor risk management, but the DEI rating doesn't tell us much about why this happened. --- End quote --- My post was about the current poor state of political discourse in the US. The usual suspects had stated without proof that the bank failure was due to "wokeness". "DEI" or "D&I" refer to employee diversity, and "ESG" refers to "environmental, social, and governance" issues in operation. Both concepts have been described as "woke". |
| JohanH:
--- Quote from: m k on March 17, 2023, 09:38:27 pm --- stat.fi, Tilastokeskus, come on man, you can do better. For now you're only proving some earlier points of ideology and incapability. --- End quote --- I'm not disputing the numbers, I'm saying there is no proved connection between the statistics and the "cancel mob" mentioned above. Correlation does not imply causation. You show me! |
| JohanH:
--- Quote from: PlainName on March 17, 2023, 09:39:22 pm --- --- Quote ---The ICC has judged several important cases and put war criminals in prison. --- End quote --- Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they've put an active leader of a country in prison, only those that have already been vanquished. --- End quote --- I think you are right. It's a bit hard to arrest sitting leaders in dictatorships. |
| tszaboo:
--- Quote from: JohanH on March 17, 2023, 08:54:24 pm --- --- Quote from: james_s on March 17, 2023, 08:20:57 pm --- How is it right wing nuttery? Do you have a better explanation? --- End quote --- It seems right wing to me, because I've seen similar populist ideas by conservatives and right wing politicians over here. Typically blaming the state, state media, education etc of being too liberal or "leftist". I don't have an explanation for that connection, because I didn't make such a connection. I didn't know that anyone did such a connection to begin with. I don't think the arrest warrant on Putin is useless. Maybe for the US, because the US haven't recognized the ICC, but 123 other countries have. So at least it has an important symbolic meaning. The ICC has judged several important cases and put war criminals in prison. I don't know if that will ever happen to Putin, but now at least Russia appeasers in Europe will have a harder time licking Putin's *ss, so to speak. It will be much harder to shake his hand without moving to some Arab country afterwards (yes, there are already examples of politicians who did this when Russia started their full scale invasion). --- End quote --- Literally nobody was talking about putin until you brough the subject up. BTW, if politicians are talking about it, it doesn't mean it's not true. |
| JohanH:
--- Quote from: tszaboo on March 17, 2023, 09:46:50 pm ---[ Literally nobody was talking about putin until you brough the subject up. BTW, if politicians are talking about it, it doesn't mean it's not true. --- End quote --- True. |
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