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Nominal Animal:

--- Quote from: JohanH on March 17, 2023, 08:14:21 pm ---All of your explanations for this alleged connection look like right-wing nuttery to me.
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Right-wing nuttery?  Right-wing I can accept, but "nuttery"?  Point at least one specific thing in my posts that is "nutty".  Or is everybody who disagrees with you a "nut"?


--- Quote from: JohanH on March 17, 2023, 08:14:21 pm ---I couldn't care less about conservative conspiracy theories right now.
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Conspiracy theory?  Really?   Point out a single conspiracy I've alleged here, please.  Otherwise, you are a liar and owe me an apology.

You don't get to call me names just because you feel like it, after I've treated you as an equal, and spent a lot of time and effort to try and explain the basis for my current understanding.  You disagree, and that's fine; but just discard all that as "right-wing nuttery" and "conservative conspiracy theory" is absolutely disgusting, and utterly intellectually dishonest.

Your behaviour shows the same problem we've discussed all along in this thread, about cancel culture: honest debate is dead, dissenting opinions and explanations labeled as "right-wing nuttery" and "conservative conspiracy theories", and therefore not worth anyones time, and should be eradicated.  Only Socially Correct Thoughts shall be expressed.  People must stay silent, or they too will be labeled "nutters" and "conspiracy theorists" by the likes of you, all for having a different opinion, even when they try to carefully explain how they have constructed their current understanding.  You even refuse to look at those references!  How dare you!?

And even now, I do not want you banned or silenced.  I only want your lies corrected and acknowledged, and an apology for the uncalled-for name-calling.

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: vk6zgo on March 18, 2023, 12:36:16 am ---Mr Addams is either a victim or he is not, & we have had plenty of posts on both sides, but if we try somehow analysing  the cause/s of his situation, the problem is it is difficult to stick to that topic when is it blends seamlessly into so many related ones.
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No need to analyse any of this, if you actually listen to him (which most people have not), he states repeatedly that he is not a victim, he's not complaining about what happened to him, and yes what he said was racists and that's the entire point of it. After the dust has settled it's clearly a political cancellation from the left. No one on the right/conserative side of politics has cancelled him, no black people have cancelled him, it was ultimately a political takedown because he has influence in politics. He knowingly offered up an opportunity to the political left to cancel him and they took it. They would have been dumb not to. That's politics.
Adam's has said reapeatedly he has achived what he wanted to achieve, is not looking back, and thinks he's made genuine progress in race relations.
He admits he just didn't expect to lose the syndication, but has also said he understand why they were fearful and dropped him, and does not blame them.

The big question is now, do you fork out US$7/month for Dilbert or not...

wilfred:

--- Quote from: vk6zgo on March 18, 2023, 12:36:16 am ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on March 18, 2023, 12:25:31 am ---Ok, any more Putin posts get deleted.
Please stick to the topic.

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Dave, the original topic is pretty much exhausted.

Mr Addams is either a victim or he is not, & we have had plenty of posts on both sides, but if we try somehow analysing  the cause/s of his situation, the problem is it is difficult to stick to that topic when is it blends seamlessly into so many related ones.

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He's not a victim. He has said fairly directly that he isn't complaining and he got exactly what he wanted. I've said that before and showed a link to where he said it. I had a circuitous story that happened in the supermarket yesterday about why something appears on the shelf and then gets "reduced to clear". The upshot of it after all the superficial BS reasons is money. Right at the heart of it at the bottom line it comes down to money.

It is the same with Scott Adams. He calculated the risk and decided it would be more lucrative to move to a subscription based model where he was in complete control. I watched a few of his videos on YT and it became clear to me at least how he rambles on about something, then confesses to not know the answer, then makes a leap of logic and says "am I right" or something like "maybe you know, post it in the comments". It seems to be a sort of technique to manipulate his audience who probably sort of agree with him but don't quite know why. I imagine it is the same sort of thing Fox News commentators do to hold an audience that mostly just enjoys being part of something bigger than themselves that they know they're angry about. As long as they're amongst other angry people they don't need to strain themselves with understanding exactly why.

Scott Adams is clearly not an idiot, I never thought the Fox News anchors actually believed the lies they were spouting on air. And I don't count myself as the sharpest tool in the toolbox but Scott Adams clearly thinks his audience is duller than even I am.

In both cases it comes down to money.

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: wilfred on March 18, 2023, 01:17:23 am ---It is the same with Scott Adams. He calculated the risk and decided it would be more lucrative to move to a subscription based model where he was in complete control.
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Not so. He has said repeatedly that he did not expect his syndication company to drop him (that lead to an 80% drop in his income). He just expected some more newspapers to cancel his strip as they have done 3-4 times now in the last year when he has said something provocative.

Now that that's happened, he decided to go with only having Dilbert on Locals, but that was never a plan.

Nominal Animal:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on March 18, 2023, 12:25:31 am ---Please stick to the topic.
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Once again, Dave, I seem to have been a part of the derailment.

Not thru any action of my own, though, this time.  It is just that what I described in #504 a bit over a week ago as a pattern happening often in Finland, repeated here on your forum a few hours ago, causing the derailment.

:palm:

I have to admit, as a tactic to get people to silence themselves, it does work.  It definitely decreases my willingness to engage anyone on this general subject in the future.  Not because of fear of cancellation, but just out of sheer disgust.

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