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| Nominal Animal:
--- Quote from: vk6zgo on March 18, 2023, 09:02:16 am ---Quoting him directly: --- End quote --- In #504 I wrote "Anyone speaking against the "progressivist activist group", is a transphobic racist X, regardless of the actual topic.". And, like clockwork, JohanH starts blathering about "conservative conspiracy theories" and X and Trump and so on, proving my point perfectly –– and derailing the thread. Probably hoped to get the thread locked, too. Then, I re-referred to that name-calling as an effective tactic to get people to stay silent. This is not cancelling, just another aspect of the same worldview. Even when they know they cannot cancel someone, they can still label and call others names, bullying others so they'll stop talking out of disgust, not any kind of fear. The need to stop other people from speaking, and yet others from listening, to the Bad Ideas must be strong indeed. Why are you so keen to stop this discussion? Has some of the posts made you think, and you find the cognitive dissonance brewing in yourself so uncomfortable, you feel an overriding need to badger Dave repeatedly hoping he'll close the thread, hopefully quelling those bad thoughts in yourself? It is so weird how proponents of the cancel culture are so willing to police others, but refuse to control their own impulses. |
| JohanH:
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on March 18, 2023, 10:09:11 am --- It is so weird how proponents of the cancel culture are so willing to police others, but refuse to control their own impulses. --- End quote --- Keep touting this nonsense. "Declining PISA scores caused by cancel culture" - I put this in the same category as "wind turbines cause cancer". Until there is some scientific proof. Then it MIGHT be worth to take a look at if it really causes trouble in the society. Now I'm supposedly part of the cancel mob because someone's frail feelings got hurt. Sure. |
| vk6zgo:
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on March 18, 2023, 10:09:11 am --- --- Quote from: vk6zgo on March 18, 2023, 09:02:16 am ---Quoting him directly: --- End quote --- In #504 I wrote "Anyone speaking against the "progressivist activist group", is a transphobic racist X, regardless of the actual topic.". And, like clockwork, JohanH starts blathering about "conservative conspiracy theories" and X and Trump and so on, proving my point perfectly –– and derailing the thread. Probably hoped to get the thread locked, too. Then, I re-referred to that name-calling as an effective tactic to get people to stay silent. This is not cancelling, just another aspect of the same worldview. Even when they know they cannot cancel someone, they can still label and call others names, --- End quote --- Meanwhile, you seem to be just as happy to throw names around. Is it just you who shouldn't receive them? --- Quote --- bullying others so they'll stop talking out of disgust, --- End quote --- Well it has certainly worked in my case, as I have decided to not post again in this thread --- Quote ---not any kind of fear. The need to stop other people from speaking, and yet others from listening, to the Bad Ideas must be strong indeed. Why are you so keen to stop this discussion? Has some of the posts made you think, and you find the cognitive dissonance brewing in yourself so uncomfortable, you feel an overriding need to badger Dave repeatedly hoping he'll close the thread, hopefully quelling those bad thoughts in yourself? It is so weird how proponents of the cancel culture are so willing to police others, but refuse to control their own impulses. --- End quote --- I am not a "proponent of the cancel culture", nor am I "badgering Dave repeatedly" in the hope of anything. He will make the choice to close it or leave it open. |
| tooki:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on March 17, 2023, 11:55:08 pm ---Unfortunately it's going off the rails again. The problem with deleting posts is that you piss people off and they can potentially leave the forum in a huff. Yet I don't want to have to say "Please keep it on topic" every page. And I don't want to lock it. So :-// --- End quote --- The problem is that as soon as you and others introduce (and keep using) the term “cancel culture” as a synonym for “censorship, vengeance, and oppression”, you’re using a partisan definition of the term, which inexorably draws politics into the mix. See https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/08/17/how-americans-feel-about-cancel-culture-and-offensive-speech-in-6-charts/ ; I assume the results would be similar in other English speaking countries, too. It’s frustrating — and thus tempting to respond to — to see so many conservative opinions and misrepresentations presented as fact, rather than opinion. But as soon as anyone attempts to debate the point, “it’s politics” (even though the original statements were, too…) and you tell us to stop, but then yourself go right back to reiterating the conservative claim/opinion. The fact that Dilbert has/had large popularity among nerds does not, IMHO, justify a special exemption to the no-politics rule, given that the entire premise is inherently political. |
| JohanH:
--- Quote from: tooki on March 18, 2023, 01:36:33 pm --- It’s frustrating — and thus tempting to respond to — to see so many conservative opinions and misrepresentations presented as fact, rather than opinion. But as soon as anyone attempts to debate the point, “it’s politics” (even though the original statements were, too…) and you tell us to stop, but then yourself go right back to reiterating the conservative claim/opinion. --- End quote --- I don't care how Dave runs his forum, it's his forum, he can do what he want. But I think the above statement by tooki should be thought of by more people. Just because a narrative is more common in some English speaking social media, doesn't mean that it should be used as a fact. A lot of people in other countries will react to the specifically American conservative opinions and narratives as strange, because they are not that common as some would like to believe. |
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