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| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 11, 2023, 10:02:18 am --- --- Quote from: tggzzz on May 11, 2023, 08:20:32 am ---I'm not going to pay to have any politics thrust in my face. --- End quote --- (his) Politics have always been inserted into Dilbert. It's always regularly had an angle of being a piss-take of current politics, be it corporate, social, government, media etc. --- End quote --- Hmmm. While there's some degree of validity to that, it is going to depend on the definition of "politics" and what is regarded as being inside/outside that category. To some extent, that will always be a personal value-judgement, in the same vein as the definition of "art". I would exclude internal corporate/team/project and inter-personal shenanigans as being non-Political (with a capital P). It becomes less clear-cut where gender/race/religion is involved. Unfortunately warriors of many kinds are becoming involved, and that leads to inhibition and self-censorship - to the detriment of all. My presumption is that behind a paywall, the need to ensure continued payments will bias the drift towards stoking resentment over divisions and attitudes. Unfortunately the modern trend - that is very visible in (un)social media and becoming more visible in fringe broadcast media - is to emphasise differences and grievances in preference to common ground and beliefs. That creates an emotional response that creates addictive "involvement". I find that reprehensible. I much prefer open lampooning of silly divisions and attitutes. That's the classic old Dilbert model, amd Adams thoroughly excavated such rich ore deposits. There were signs that (after 30 years) he was finding it difficult to continue making money by mining those deposits. Analogy, in the knowledge that analogies are dangerous: when public businesses reach a plateau and begin to decline, they are often bought by private investors - who then begin to rapaciously exploit their declining customers. Summary: there's a grey area between good taste and satire on one side, and rabble rousing and hatred on the other. Adams was moving into that grey area, and I presume would accelerate behind a paywall. |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on May 11, 2023, 10:33:43 am --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on May 11, 2023, 10:02:18 am --- --- Quote from: tggzzz on May 11, 2023, 08:20:32 am ---I'm not going to pay to have any politics thrust in my face. --- End quote --- (his) Politics have always been inserted into Dilbert. It's always regularly had an angle of being a piss-take of current politics, be it corporate, social, government, media etc. --- End quote --- Hmmm. While there's some degree of validity to that, it is going to depend on the definition of "politics" and what is regarded as being inside/outside that category. To some extent, that will always be a personal value-judgement, in the same vein as the definition of "art". I would exclude internal corporate/team/project and inter-personal shenanigans as being non-Political (with a capital P). It becomes less clear-cut where gender/race/religion is involved. Unfortunately warriors of many kinds are becoming involved, and that leads to inhibition and self-censorship - to the detriment of all. My presumption is that behind a paywall, the need to ensure continued payments will bias the drift towards stoking resentment over divisions and attitudes. Unfortunately the modern trend - that is very visible in (un)social media and becoming more visible in fringe broadcast media - is to emphasise differences and grievances in preference to common ground and beliefs. That creates an emotional response that creates addictive "involvement". I find that reprehensible. I much prefer open lampooning of silly divisions and attitutes. That's the classic old Dilbert model, amd Adams thoroughly excavated such rich ore deposits. There were signs that (after 30 years) he was finding it difficult to continue making money by mining those deposits. Analogy, in the knowledge that analogies are dangerous: when public businesses reach a plateau and begin to decline, they are often bought by private investors - who then begin to rapaciously exploit their declining customers. Summary: there's a grey area between good taste and satire on one side, and rabble rousing and hatred on the other. Adams was moving into that grey area, and I presume would accelerate behind a paywall. --- End quote --- It's just a comic. Used to be free, now you either buy it or you don't. No need to hyper analyse IMO. He has said very specifically in his live shows that he's now free to put stuff in the comic that the newspapers would have previously balked at. He gave some examples that were so mundane you wouldn't even believe anyone would have had an issue with it. As for upcoming stuff, in the next few weeks Dilbert will be getting a sex bot named Karen. |
| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 11, 2023, 11:14:03 am --- --- Quote from: tggzzz on May 11, 2023, 10:33:43 am --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on May 11, 2023, 10:02:18 am --- --- Quote from: tggzzz on May 11, 2023, 08:20:32 am ---I'm not going to pay to have any politics thrust in my face. --- End quote --- (his) Politics have always been inserted into Dilbert. It's always regularly had an angle of being a piss-take of current politics, be it corporate, social, government, media etc. --- End quote --- Hmmm. While there's some degree of validity to that, it is going to depend on the definition of "politics" and what is regarded as being inside/outside that category. To some extent, that will always be a personal value-judgement, in the same vein as the definition of "art". I would exclude internal corporate/team/project and inter-personal shenanigans as being non-Political (with a capital P). It becomes less clear-cut where gender/race/religion is involved. Unfortunately warriors of many kinds are becoming involved, and that leads to inhibition and self-censorship - to the detriment of all. My presumption is that behind a paywall, the need to ensure continued payments will bias the drift towards stoking resentment over divisions and attitudes. Unfortunately the modern trend - that is very visible in (un)social media and becoming more visible in fringe broadcast media - is to emphasise differences and grievances in preference to common ground and beliefs. That creates an emotional response that creates addictive "involvement". I find that reprehensible. I much prefer open lampooning of silly divisions and attitutes. That's the classic old Dilbert model, amd Adams thoroughly excavated such rich ore deposits. There were signs that (after 30 years) he was finding it difficult to continue making money by mining those deposits. Analogy, in the knowledge that analogies are dangerous: when public businesses reach a plateau and begin to decline, they are often bought by private investors - who then begin to rapaciously exploit their declining customers. Summary: there's a grey area between good taste and satire on one side, and rabble rousing and hatred on the other. Adams was moving into that grey area, and I presume would accelerate behind a paywall. --- End quote --- It's just a comic. Used to be free, now you either buy it or you don't. No need to hyper analyse IMO. --- End quote --- Malefactors use comics too. I analysed my feelings in order to understand and justify them. --- Quote ---He has said very specifically in his live shows --- End quote --- I won't watch videos unless they indicate in advance how I would benefit from watching the moving pictures. Typical speech rate: 60wpm. My speedreading rate: ~1000wpm. Reading words enables me to do more than watching 99.9% of videos. I have to carefully allocate my remaining life :( --- Quote ---that he's now free to put stuff in the comic that the newspapers would have previously balked at. He gave some examples that were so mundane you wouldn't even believe anyone would have had an issue with it. As for upcoming stuff, in the next few weeks Dilbert will be getting a sex bot named Karen. --- End quote --- I can believe it :( People can be too touchy, especially when satire hits the mark. But that doesn't invalidate my fears/presumptions. |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote ---I won't watch videos unless they indicate in advance how I would benefit from watching the moving pictures. Typical speech rate: 60wpm. My speedreading rate: ~1000wpm. Reading words enables me to do more than watching 99.9% of videos. I have to carefully allocate my remaining life :( --- End quote --- Luckily you don't have too, I just gave you the overview. --- Quote ---But that doesn't invalidate my fears/presumptions. --- End quote --- Meh. You either pay $2 and read it for a month, or you don't. If you don't, you'll never know if you still like Dilbert or not. I haven't seen the new stuff as I'm not paying $7/month on Locals. $2/month on Twitter just for the comic I'd be happy to pay though. I'm actually keen to see the sex bot strips, sounds funny. I do have an account and follow him on Locals and that occasionally shows some Robots Reads News strips. |
| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 11, 2023, 12:02:16 pm --- --- Quote ---I won't watch videos unless they indicate in advance how I would benefit from watching the moving pictures. Typical speech rate: 60wpm. My speedreading rate: ~1000wpm. Reading words enables me to do more than watching 99.9% of videos. I have to carefully allocate my remaining life :( --- End quote --- Luckily you don't have too, I just gave you the overview. --- End quote --- :) Did he really need an entire video to float "the idea that he should put Dilbert on Twitter Subscriptions for $2/month"? Seems like you managed to sum up the information (and avoid the noise) with only a few words. Good tradeoff, showing consideration for the readers :) (BTW, with your yootoob vids summaries containing pointers to the "chapter headings" are sufficient information for me to decide to watch or not. Thanks for that consideration.) --- Quote --- --- Quote ---But that doesn't invalidate my fears/presumptions. --- End quote --- Meh. You either pay $2 and read it for a month, or you don't. If you don't, you'll never know if you still like Dilbert or not. I haven't seen the new stuff as I'm not paying $7/month on Locals. $2/month on Twitter just for the comic I'd be happy to pay though. I'm actually keen to see the sex bot strips, sounds funny. I do have an account and follow him on Locals and that occasionally shows some Robots Reads News strips. --- End quote --- I opened a "Locals" account and read it daily for a week. All it contained was "not showing you this", "not showing you this", ... "not showing you this". Unsurprisingly I gave up. There are far too many interesting things around to worry about one of them disappearing. |
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