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Buriedcode:

--- Quote from: Zero999 on May 14, 2023, 12:35:55 pm ---
True, but she hasn't faced any real consequences. She still has her acting job. Had a pale male said something bad about black people, he would have been treated much more harshly, even if he didn't receive the same level of public criticism. Take historian David Starkey for example. This obvious double standard shows that black/minority privilege is real in many scenarios.

I don't think she should be cancelled. She should be free to make such silly, hateful comments if she likes and the same should be true for Scott Adams.

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I'm not sure you can really compare Scott Adams, David Starkey, and the lady's remarks.  Scott Adams openly said he thought black were a "hate group", and said he thought whites should steer clear of them; David starkey said "The whites have become black. A particular sort of violent, destructive, nihilistic, gangster culture.".  What she said was pretty poor taste and frankly stupid, but nowhere near as racist as the other two.

Also, whenever I read about someone being "cancelled" it is because their employers recieve so many complaints it outweighs the benefits of employing them - so they are dismissed.  I'm not sure this is unfair since part of employment is not damaging the companies repuation/image - if an employee's actions create financial harm beyond any income that employee generates, why would they not fire them?

These people stated their opinions - and far from being silenced, had those opinions posted in TV shows and newspapers around the world.  But somehow the obvious consequences of sharing those opinions is "unfair" ?

Zero999:

--- Quote from: Buriedcode on May 14, 2023, 07:06:22 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on May 14, 2023, 12:35:55 pm ---
True, but she hasn't faced any real consequences. She still has her acting job. Had a pale male said something bad about black people, he would have been treated much more harshly, even if he didn't receive the same level of public criticism. Take historian David Starkey for example. This obvious double standard shows that black/minority privilege is real in many scenarios.

I don't think she should be cancelled. She should be free to make such silly, hateful comments if she likes and the same should be true for Scott Adams.

--- End quote ---

I'm not sure you can really compare Scott Adams, David Starkey, and the lady's remarks.  Scott Adams openly said he thought black were a "hate group", and said he thought whites should steer clear of them; David starkey said "The whites have become black. A particular sort of violent, destructive, nihilistic, gangster culture.".  What she said was pretty poor taste and frankly stupid, but nowhere near as racist as the other two.

Also, whenever I read about someone being "cancelled" it is because their employers recieve so many complaints it outweighs the benefits of employing them - so they are dismissed.  I'm not sure this is unfair since part of employment is not damaging the companies repuation/image - if an employee's actions create financial harm beyond any income that employee generates, why would they not fire them?

These people stated their opinions - and far from being silenced, had those opinions posted in TV shows and newspapers around the world.  But somehow the obvious consequences of sharing those opinions is "unfair" ?

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It's subjective and open to interpretation to some degree. Not all black people find what Scott Adams said offensive. Some have interpreted as him referring specifically to blacks who hate whites and even agree with him.

I just chose a couple of examples currently in the news. It doesn't change the fact there are plenty of examples of black people saying nasty things about whites and getting away with it. I could talk about that nutty professor in the video linked above (skip to 9:13 for her racist rant) or Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot, who refused one on one interviews with white journalists. The double standard definitely exists and is plain to see.

james_s:

--- Quote from: Zero999 on May 14, 2023, 08:59:06 pm ---It's subjective and open to interpretation to some degree. Not all black people find what Scott Adams said offensive. Some have interpreted as him referring specifically to blacks who hate whites and even agree with him.

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I thought it was obvious that's what he was referring to, what else could he mean? It seems a significant segment of the population today simply does not grasp context in any form, nor implied things, ie if I were to complain about "rude Americans doing xyz" it should be obvious that I'm talking specifically about the rude variety of Americans and their behavior, not stating that all Americans are rude. The thought that all black people find someone or something offensive is in itself racist. Black people like any other people are individuals. We can make statistical generalizations but nobody can speak for all of them.
.RC.:
There are a subset of individuals out there that only see what they want to see.   When someone says something they do not like they will zero in on something insignificant and use that to launch a personal attack on the poster.   It gets really absurd at times. Like EEVBlog #502, The $19 Hameg Oscillscope.  While testing, Dave brings up the ABC logo on the screen.  Obviously he is a raging left wing communist socialist pinko.   :)

In fact after my interactions on internet forums, it is more widespread then you think (not raging left wing communist socialist pinko's).
RJSV:
   If people enter that space, with pre-conceived notions about the so-called 'NEW' racism...then yes, they will see racism in that question, and answer in that context, that being that there is a new racist behind every tree, out there, and  of course, (wink wink) that statement being read for a survey is USING CODE.

   Give me a break, I say.  These days the main media behave (beneath), like a band of teenage gossipy kids, running for sophomore class president.  Reading second warmed 'news' regurgitated here, like compliant little robots.

   Try ask this (in a survey of 1000 random citizens):
   "Are you comfortable with the phrase: 'All white men are racist'..."
Stop dancing around the issue,  there are those (in media) who wish for a real race war, not some endless debate.
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