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HuronKing:

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--- Quote from: tggzzz on May 15, 2023, 11:46:12 am ---Examples of how to do it: in the 60s people like Martin Luther King Jr
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Who is now ironically being or has been "cancelled".

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Really? Why? The reasons matter.

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It's because his idea is the polar opposite of the wokies. He said that merit matters and not your skin.
It's a stupid idea, obviously, since everyone knows that white people are just the source of all evil, and should be punished for things that happened 150 years ago (also the union ones that were fighting against it).  :-//

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I've only read silently this thread for a while now but come on y'all... please listen to what MLK actually said:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/06/martin-luther-king-makes-the-case-for-reparations/372696/

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/first/d/dyson-may.html


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MLK Jr.

MLK was 'cancelled' (i.e. actually f**king assassinated) because he believed in reparations for blacks and was a very profoundly outspoken socialist.




--- Quote ---It's a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. Many negroes have been left bootless as a result of all these years of oppression and as a result of a society that deliberately made his color a stigma and something worthless and degrading.

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MLK Jr.

So... yea... he did say white people are the source of evil and oppression for blacks in America. You can think he's wrong or that it is stupid - but he said it.  :-//

PS
The whole interview is here. This was filmed 11 months before he was murdered.

Sal Ammoniac:
Unless you're a black man actually living in the U.S. I don't think you have any idea of how bad the systemic racism is. Sure, it's not as bad as in the days of slavery and Jim Crow, but it's still pretty bad.

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on May 15, 2023, 04:18:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 15, 2023, 01:14:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on May 15, 2023, 11:46:12 am ---Examples of how to do it: in the 60s people like Martin Luther King Jr
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Who is now ironically being or has been "cancelled".

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Really? Why? The reasons matter.

One thing I do object to is judging past people by today's standards. If you do that, then you have to condemn Thomas Jefferson because he was a slave owner - and that obviously overrules everything else he did. Doesn't it?

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Correct. Welcome to the madness of 2020's culture wars.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/10/canceling-thomas-jefferson/

tszaboo:

--- Quote from: Sal Ammoniac on May 15, 2023, 09:19:39 pm ---Unless you're a black man actually living in the U.S. I don't think you have any idea of how bad the systemic racism is. Sure, it's not as bad as in the days of slavery and Jim Crow, but it's still pretty bad.

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And yet it's still better than the situation of minority groups in almost any country. And how it was over 100% of history. And how it happens to any group of people, regardless skin color or anything. You all act like there is some sort of monopoly on this stuff. Have you seen Borat? That was a Romani ethnic village in Romania. Do you see what's going on in SA? Have you heard a Chinese term gweilo?
Pick up a history book and maybe travel somewhere not to just make a picture of a famous building, and actually realize what is going on.
I can tell you whenever you point at a group of people, and say "these people" are responsible, thats always some third reich level hatred, creating the perpetual misery.

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 15, 2023, 10:45:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on May 15, 2023, 04:18:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 15, 2023, 01:14:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on May 15, 2023, 11:46:12 am ---Examples of how to do it: in the 60s people like Martin Luther King Jr
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Who is now ironically being or has been "cancelled".

--- End quote ---

Really? Why? The reasons matter.

One thing I do object to is judging past people by today's standards. If you do that, then you have to condemn Thomas Jefferson because he was a slave owner - and that obviously overrules everything else he did. Doesn't it?

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Correct. Welcome to the madness of 2020's culture wars.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/10/canceling-thomas-jefferson/

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People have always taken good ideas beyond the boundaries of good sense and into extremist territory. That's true for all subjects, technical and non-technical.

One example is "Post Modern Literary Criticism". A couple of software engineers went and found out what that is about, and wrote a wryly amusing essay that I remember 30 years later. http://www.fudco.com/chip/deconstr.html Basically it is good to think about what's behind a statement and what isn't being said (e.g. in datasheets). But the PoMo LitCrit mob took that to ridiculous and unjustifiable extremes.

Currently the people over here going into extremist territory are (re)branding themselves "National Conservatives". We need of a good essay comparing-and-contrasting that with "National Socialists". So far as I can see, there is far too much overlap for comfort, and little "clear blue water".

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