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thm_w:
I take it you've never seen the movie?

bsfeechannel:

--- Quote from: Bassman59 on September 20, 2021, 05:08:31 pm ---No, you should surrender to the dream police.

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What is funny about this rendition is that the vocalist announces that the song starts with the keyboards. When he realizes the song actually starts with the drums, he briefly looks at the drummer with a damn-I-always-forget-that-drummers-are-musicians-too attitude, then proceeds to greet the keyboardist.


--- Quote from: TimNJ on September 21, 2021, 02:50:24 am ---I think the emergence and prevalence of corporate-speak must somehow be related to:

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The reason why corporations restrict the usage of words or even expressions is that the relationship between companies is ALWAYS formal. No matter what position you hold, you are a representative of that company. So your talk has to conform to a standard. Of course the formality can be relaxed in many contexts, but that doesn't mean a permanent license.
Cerebus:

--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on September 22, 2021, 02:17:47 pm ---
--- Quote from: Bassman59 on September 20, 2021, 05:08:31 pm ---No, you should surrender to the dream police.

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What is funny about this rendition is that the vocalist announces that the song starts with the keyboards. When he realizes the song actually starts with the drums, he briefly looks at the drummer with a damn-I-always-forget-that-drummers-are-musicians-too attitude, then proceeds to greet the keyboardist.

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Easy mistake. Anyone could make it. Drummers, well...  :)


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--- Quote from: TimNJ on September 21, 2021, 02:50:24 am ---I think the emergence and prevalence of corporate-speak must somehow be related to:

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The reason why corporations restrict the usage of words or even expressions is that the relationship between companies is ALWAYS formal. No matter what position you hold, you are a representative of that company. So your talk has to conform to a standard. Of course the formality can be relaxed in many contexts, but that doesn't mean a permanent license.

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It's not a, possibly necessary, formality that is being complained of. It is empty buzzword loaded speech that is essentially meaningless.


--- Quote from: Famous company's mission statement ---Become essential to our customers by providing differentiated products and services to help them achieve their aspirations.

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That is the mission statement for a very well known company. Can you tell what, if anything, they make? Can you tell what, if anything, that they do? Can you tell who, if anybody, are their customers? Does that in fact communicate anything that isn't implicit in a company existing, or is it just hot air, dressed up in buzzwords like "differentiated" and "aspirations",  expelled for the sake of saying something that didn't need to be said?
TimNJ:

--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on September 22, 2021, 02:17:47 pm ---
--- Quote from: Bassman59 on September 20, 2021, 05:08:31 pm ---No, you should surrender to the dream police.

--- End quote ---

What is funny about this rendition is that the vocalist announces that the song starts with the keyboards. When he realizes the song actually starts with the drums, he briefly looks at the drummer with a damn-I-always-forget-that-drummers-are-musicians-too attitude, then proceeds to greet the keyboardist.


--- Quote from: TimNJ on September 21, 2021, 02:50:24 am ---I think the emergence and prevalence of corporate-speak must somehow be related to:

--- End quote ---

The reason why corporations restrict the usage of words or even expressions is that the relationship between companies is ALWAYS formal. No matter what position you hold, you are a representative of that company. So your talk has to conform to a standard. Of course the formality can be relaxed in many contexts, but that doesn't mean a permanent license.

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I'm not necessarily talking about talking "formally" vs talking in "slang". My communication with other companies is generally always formal, and I agree that it should be this way (for a number of reasons). One reason is that slang/informal speak can be interpreted differently by different people, especially those you don't have a close relationship with. So, clear, formal communication always makes sense in this context. When speaking with people within your company, you can adjust your formality based on how well you know the person, in my opinion.

But, my point is the "corporate-speak" ≠ "formal language". Speaking nonsense does not really help anyone, and probably just makes things more confusing for everyone.
tooki:
Yeah, the issue is that modern “corporate” tries to avoid sounding formal, so instead it’s this contorted “casual” register. Google “microspeak” for some deal doozies: Microsoft is famous for coining just weeeeeird corporate speak.

But nothing, and I mean NOTHING, beats the insanity of Sephora’s corporate vocabulary. It is, frankly, freakish. The salesclerks, oops sorry, “cast members” are under strict orders to use their doubletalk lingo. The most memorable bit is that one cannot give a coworker (even a subordinate) “criticism” or “feedback”. No, you have to call it a “gift”.

“Hey tooki, I have a gift for you! You totally borked that last sale…” :o
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