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Zero999:

--- Quote from: Cerebus on May 13, 2022, 02:00:13 pm ---There's two things going on here.

First the assumption that all these scams originate in not-western countries. That's not true, anyone who has watched a few of Mark's glitter bomb videos will know that several of the scammers he has traced are entirely domestic US operations,

Two, people who do operate these scams out of India and other places aren't adopting western pseudonyms as a purely criminal tactic. I'm sure that using a pseudonym is a criminal tactic, but the fact that it is a western pseudonym isn't. Quite a lot of people from non-western countries adopt "English" names or anglicised nicknames when dealing with English speakers because English speakers are too dumb to cope with 'complicated' foreign names. I've known dozens of examples over the years: Fakhri - an Iraqi born millionaire civil engineer with an English wife who goes by Frank, Chandrakant - an English born bloke of Indian extraction who goes by Charlie, Shaheen Abdulfaz Sharibianni - an Iranian student who got stuck here in England when the Iranian revolution happened who went by the nickname Shab and so on.



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I don't like using the term racism, because it's really overused, but I it's clearly a factor in some of these scammer's psyches, whether they get orders from those operating in the west or not. They believe white people are dumb, greedy and wealthy from the spoils of colonialism. The criminal acts committed by the British in India and by other Europeans, before anyone living now was born, helps to justify their actions, which they see as revenge and taking back what's rightfully theirs.

We recently had a troll from India, who expressed a similar view, so it wouldn't surprise me it's used by scammers to justify their actions.

--- Quote from: diycounterespionage on April 26, 2022, 03:08:26 pm ---. You are making circuitous argument, because I can go back to my argument that West has stolen things from India centuries, which made the West rich enough to develop technologies, etc. So you have no moral right to expect me to pay for it.

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https://www.eevblog.com/forum/news/my-thread-has-been-locked-in-a-high-handed-manner/msg4139392/#msg4139392

Cerebus:
One swallow does not a summer make, anecdote is not evidence, etc. One doesn't have to go looking for racial/racialist/racist explanations here. The Essex thug mugging old ladies is not driven by race memories of the celtic Trinovantes being ultimately displaced by Anglo-Saxons, he's driven by simple criminality. That a few criminals chose to make post facto justifications of their acts on historical grounds of colonial wrongs isn't a motivation for their acts or an excuse for them. Neither is it an excuse to go looking at their nationality as a cause of their criminal behaviour. I bet their grandma-ji would say just the same thing to them as mine would to me: "Two wrongs don't make a right, nyah?".

Zero999:

--- Quote from: Cerebus on May 13, 2022, 03:16:45 pm ---One swallow does not a summer make, anecdote is not evidence, etc. One doesn't have to go looking for racial/racialist/racist explanations here. The Essex thug mugging old ladies is not driven by race memories of the celtic Trinovantes being ultimately displaced by Anglo-Saxons, he's driven by simple criminality. That a few criminals chose to make post facto justifications of their acts on historical grounds of colonial wrongs isn't a motivation for their acts or an excuse for them. Neither is it an excuse to go looking at their nationality as a cause of their criminal behaviour. I bet their grandma-ji would say just the same thing to them as mine would to me: "Two wrongs don't make a right, nyah?".

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Of course making money is the goal. It does seem that racism is often used to justify it. The trans-Atlantic slave trade was primally about making money. The idea that the blacks were an inferior race was used to prevent people from feeling bad about themselves. It's very different to the Nazis who used racism purely to target a group of people.

Ice-Tea:
Next time I get a call from "Microsoft about your computer, Sir" I'll think about that video, chuckle and put the phone down.

Zero999:

--- Quote from: Ice-Tea on May 13, 2022, 05:33:05 pm ---Next time I get a call from "Microsoft about your computer, Sir" I'll think about that video, chuckle and put the phone down.

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Have you tried booting into a Linux virtual machine and trolling them? Unfortunately they always ring me on my landline, which isn't next to my PC and I don't have laptop, so I can't do that.

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