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| coppice:
--- Quote from: rstofer on July 30, 2023, 02:06:10 pm --- --- Quote from: vad on January 02, 1970, 10:57:45 pm --- You may also consider the MacBook Pro. These laptops are faster, quieter, and have excellent battery life compared to ThinkPads. However, for Windows users, the MacOS experience could be a bit challenging, and Apple's warranty comes with a deductible and longer turnaround times. --- End quote --- I am in the process of making the transition to the MacBook Pro M2 - it isn't all that difficult if you have spent time with Unix or Linux. I really like the crisp display and most everything I use on Windows will run on the MacBook Pro - except MATLAB and that conversion may be complete in version 2023b when it gets released. Meanwhile I can get most of my stuff working with wxMaxima. --- End quote --- I didn't understand what vad was talking about there. Even if you have never used a Unix or Linux machine, moving from Windows to Mac is a trivial change. Windows 7 to Windows 10 was just as big. |
| rstofer:
--- Quote from: coppice on July 30, 2023, 04:03:05 pm --- --- Quote from: rstofer on July 30, 2023, 02:06:10 pm --- --- Quote from: vad on January 02, 1970, 10:57:45 pm --- You may also consider the MacBook Pro. These laptops are faster, quieter, and have excellent battery life compared to ThinkPads. However, for Windows users, the MacOS experience could be a bit challenging, and Apple's warranty comes with a deductible and longer turnaround times. --- End quote --- I am in the process of making the transition to the MacBook Pro M2 - it isn't all that difficult if you have spent time with Unix or Linux. I really like the crisp display and most everything I use on Windows will run on the MacBook Pro - except MATLAB and that conversion may be complete in version 2023b when it gets released. Meanwhile I can get most of my stuff working with wxMaxima. --- End quote --- I didn't understand what vad was talking about there. Even if you have never used a Unix or Linux machine, moving from Windows to Mac is a trivial change. Windows 7 to Windows 10 was just as big. --- End quote --- Well, there is no backspace key (the delete button does a backspace), the system controls are on the wrong side (like Ubuntu was with Unity desktop), command line install for apps that don't come packaged, keyboard shortcuts for page up/down, forward/back (browser). It seems to me that keyboard shortcuts and trackpad gestures are vastly more important in the Macbook universe. Then there is the Magic Mouse with trackpad functionality instead of a scroll wheel and no forward/back buttons. It does have left/right as well as up/down scroll functionality. The Macbook does work with a conventional mouse but I bought the Magic Mouse so I might as well make peace with it. Keyboard combinations using the <Command> key are hard to type and the <Command> key is the equivalent of the Windows <Ctrl> key so lots of opportunity to mistype Cut/Copy/Paste. It seems as though whatever you know about Windows, forget about it when you move to Macbook. Really, these are just nits. I think I'll be using the Macbook as my primary machine for a while. But I still have to deal with Linux and Windows. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: rstofer on July 30, 2023, 04:39:21 pm --- --- Quote from: coppice on July 30, 2023, 04:03:05 pm --- --- Quote from: rstofer on July 30, 2023, 02:06:10 pm --- --- Quote from: vad on January 02, 1970, 10:57:45 pm --- You may also consider the MacBook Pro. These laptops are faster, quieter, and have excellent battery life compared to ThinkPads. However, for Windows users, the MacOS experience could be a bit challenging, and Apple's warranty comes with a deductible and longer turnaround times. --- End quote --- I am in the process of making the transition to the MacBook Pro M2 - it isn't all that difficult if you have spent time with Unix or Linux. I really like the crisp display and most everything I use on Windows will run on the MacBook Pro - except MATLAB and that conversion may be complete in version 2023b when it gets released. Meanwhile I can get most of my stuff working with wxMaxima. --- End quote --- I didn't understand what vad was talking about there. Even if you have never used a Unix or Linux machine, moving from Windows to Mac is a trivial change. Windows 7 to Windows 10 was just as big. --- End quote --- Well, there is no backspace key (the delete button does a backspace), the system controls are on the wrong side (like Ubuntu was with Unity desktop), command line install for apps that don't come packaged, keyboard shortcuts for page up/down, forward/back (browser). It seems to me that keyboard shortcuts and trackpad gestures are vastly more important in the Macbook universe. Then there is the Magic Mouse with trackpad functionality instead of a scroll wheel and no forward/back buttons. It does have left/right as well as up/down scroll functionality. The Macbook does work with a conventional mouse but I bought the Magic Mouse so I might as well make peace with it. Keyboard combinations using the <Command> key are hard to type and the <Command> key is the equivalent of the Windows <Ctrl> key so lots of opportunity to mistype Cut/Copy/Paste. It seems as though whatever you know about Windows, forget about it when you move to Macbook. Really, these are just nits. I think I'll be using the Macbook as my primary machine for a while. But I still have to deal with Linux and Windows. --- End quote --- So, about an hour to get used to it. Pretty much like a Windows update. :) Both Windows and MacOS are pretty bad for both app installation and updates. Only the various Linuxes really have that one nailed. Any app provider can create their own compatible RPM or APT repo, and most things install and (more importantly) update from there in as consistent manner as apps on phones work from the app stores. |
| Ranayna:
The company i work in exclusively uses DELL for it's computers and servers. While i am currently not supporting these at the moment, my past experience with the notebooks was mixed. The old D Series were built like tanks. Very robust and reliable, but also heavy. The first E Series was utter crap. Hideous QA, both hard- and firmware. There were like 40 BIOS revisions published over the lifetime of the first generation. And we had a lot of complaints about shoddy assembly: misrun cables causing bulges in the keyboard, and display bezels getting loose were the main issues. Later E Series were significantly better. After the E Series, the first new generation was again not as well made, from what i head about our internal support. Many issues with bulging batteries were reported. The 7400 i had myself ran fine without major issues in it's lifetime though. At the moment i am using a Latitude 7420. That runs fine without any issues at all so far. That is confirmed by our internal support as well. These are fine. My major point of critique of the 7420 is the lack of USB ports: It has only 1 A type, and 2 C type ports. The fan can also become annoying at times. Current models of Dockingstations (WD19TB and up) are also fine now. Many earlier docks, especially the WD15 and 16 were bad. |
| mengfei:
Have you considered HP's Zbook? they are(look) sturdy but the weight is killing me or that is just I'm not that young anymore to carry loads of stuff ;D https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mlp/hp-zbook- my Lenovo ideapad had cracks near the hinge & that's just only after a few usage since it was a desktop replacement & I had an external monitor. :palm: |
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