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Notebooks built to be carried
coppice:
There are lots notebook computers which work well for home or light portable use, but for the last few years if you wanted something to carry around for business day in and day out the choice has been a Thinkpad or a Dell Latitude. After 20 years of owning the Thinkpad brand, and keeping it like it was in the IBM days, Lenovo seems to have suddenly trashed it. The newest machines feel cheap and flimsy, and IT people are complaining about absurd failure rates. So, how is Dell doing? What other choices currently make sense?
BillyO:
Have a look at the ThinkPad P16.
vad:
I cannot comment on modern Latitudes, as the last one I had was 8-10 years ago. However, based on my experience, ThinkPad X1 Extremes are fairly good. I have owned 3 of them over the past few years. Lenovo can offer a pretty good warranty, so I wouldn't be too worried about failure rates, as long as you get a good coverage. My last X1 Extreme was purchased as an open box from B&H and it came with a burned USB port. Instead of returning to B&H, Lenovo replaced the motherboard under warranty, and a technician came onsite within 24 hours of submitting the support case.
You may also consider the MacBook Pro. These laptops are faster, quieter, and have excellent battery life compared to ThinkPads. However, for Windows users, the MacOS experience could be a bit challenging, and Apple's warranty comes with a deductible and longer turnaround times.
coppice:
--- Quote from: vad on July 29, 2023, 07:20:36 pm ---I cannot comment on modern Latitudes, as the last one I had was 8-10 years ago. However, based on my experience, ThinkPad X1 Extremes are fairly good. I have owned 3 of them over the past few years. Lenovo can offer a pretty good warranty, so I wouldn't be too worried about failure rates, as long as you get a good coverage. My last X1 Extreme was purchased as an open box from B&H and it came with a burned USB port. Instead of returning to B&H, Lenovo replaced the motherboard under warranty, and a technician came onsite within 24 hours of submitting the support case.
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Over the last 20 years my family have owned a number of X2x0 and T14 Thinkpads. They've always been excellent, never failed, and the one that was damaged in an accident was handled quickly and efficiently. My daughter went to look at the latest T14, as she's about to start a master's degree. They have changed dramatically this year. They feel cheap and flimsy. She looked around and found lots of IT people complaining that fault rates have gone through the roof with the latest generation of various models of Thinkpads, and Lenovo are suddenly handling problems very poorly. It seems experience more than 1 year old may not be very relevant to what you can buy today as a Thinkpad.
vad:
T and X1 Extreme are two different series. The X1 that I said had the hardware problem was bought and serviced 7 month ago. Its build quality was the same as previous generations of X1 Extreme that I owned or used at work.
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