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YouTuber allowed to build tunnel under garden

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-61851694

Would you know as well?
 

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He lives out in Lincolnshire if I remember...

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The parish council strongly objected to the plans which it said would cause concern regarding health and safety and subsidence.

I can see them now...

 
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He lives out in Lincolnshire if I remember...

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The parish council strongly objected to the plans which it said would cause concern regarding health and safety and subsidence.

I can see them now...



Stamford mate.
 

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What they on about "allowed to"? It's HIS land!


BBC "news" are about 4-5 months behind this "news" LOL...
 

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What they on about "allowed to"? It's HIS land!

Are building permits not a thing in the UK?

I kind of like the concept that someone keeps an eye on new buildings: Make sure that the building is safe to live in and does not kill the inhabitants or their guests; make sure that it does not impact the neighbours, be it by blocking their sunlight above-ground, or by making their ground shift due to some rampant excavation.
 
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They are a thing. You need “planning permission”.

Most of the time you can build what the hell you like and get away with it though because enforcement is through complaints. So basically nosey people and dog walkers report things to the council who investigate.
 
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Thanks for the perspective.

Things are a bit stricter here -- well, this is Germany after all... Our zoning laws set pretty specific rules. E.g. in my neighborhood you can only build single-family homes or duplexes; they can only have a ground floor + slanted roof or one staggered floor; you can't build on the rear part of the lot, and have to keep 2.5 m away from the property line all around. And you better obtain a building permit ahead of time, based on submitting your detailed plans and structural analysis: Otherwise you will be fined, and may be required to modify or tear down your illicit building.

I have not looked into the rules for underground buildings yet...  ;)
 
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It's the same here really but the enforcement effort is so low that it's a risk worth taking sometimes. There's a limitation act which means that if it's there for 5 years or so and no one complains then there's nothing they can do about it unless it's a safety issue.

There was a thing a few years back though which was funny where someone did complain and they had to demolish 48 new built flats because they were 18cm away from where the plans specified. That was just the locals getting back at the developers  :-DD
 
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That's pretty similar to the UK, a property has certain classifications, for instance residential, retail, hotel, etc.  And you have to seek a variation to those to allow you to change the land-use.
 

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The parish council strongly objected to the plans which it said would cause concern regarding health and safety and subsidence.

Oh fuck off. Seriously? Don't they have anything better to whinge and moan about?
 

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The parish council strongly objected to the plans which it said would cause concern regarding health and safety and subsidence.

Oh fuck off. Seriously? Don't they have anything better to whinge and moan about?

Having lived in a small town that’s exactly why they exist. To interfere, judge and control. It’s also why I will only live in a large city now.
 
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I wonder what his neighbours really think? Is that a semi-detached house? And where does all of that rock go to?
Are there sulphur dioxide or carbon monoxide sensors down there, as the working face can be a ground vapours hazard?

My subsoil is clay, sand and aluvial shale. Which means I could dig a bunker in no time. The house will collapse into a sink hole when the ground water finds the void, but at least I will be safe from the council idiots who argue over the colour of people's front doors; because they have the authority. Ain't that right Jackie Weaver?
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The parish council strongly objected to the plans which it said would cause concern regarding health and safety and subsidence.

Oh fuck off. Seriously? Don't they have anything better to whinge and moan about?

Having lived in a small town that’s exactly why they exist. To interfere, judge and control. It’s also why I will only live in a large city now.

Yup, refusing planning permission is almost an art in this country.  And we wonder why infrastructure takes so long to build.  Oh, won't someone think of the small population of dung beetles along that high speed railway?  We'll have to build an insect bridge for that but that means those wildflowers there will get slightly altered and Ms Jenkins at no 45 seven miles away has filed an objection......
 
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This is why it took us 5 years later than the next road to get fibre. Some old cow objected to the planning permission for the box. Eventually she died. We bought a cake to celebrate.
 
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It's amazing what a few YouTube money backhanders can get done... "money talks, bullshit walks."
 

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The late, great, Fred Dibnah successfully built a 70ft mineshaft in his back garden, and planned a 90ft tunnel at the bottom (although I don't think he was able to complete this as his health failed...

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/freds-mine-disaster-1103338

Dying seems to be a good way of overcoming planning objections though...

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/mineshaft-tribute-to-dibnah-allowed-1092788

RIP Fred.
Best Regards, Chris
 
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Fred Dibnah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Dibnah

Yes, he was amazing.  I use to like watching his TV shows.  Typically, I'd see him approach a giant, crazily high all brick chimney.  Break away, an approximately fire place sized hole, at the bottom of it.  Gradually hammering in large wooden wedge like things, to replace the bits of wall holding the chimney up.

Then watch in awe as he would light a fire, and then move everyone a safe distance away from the (not sure, perhaps 200 foot high), chimney.  Which, as the fire burns, would eventually collapse with dramatic effect.

His operations, were gradually replaced by explosive expert placing teams, who could better ensure the collapsing chimney, wouldn't demolish some modern, still wanted building, nearby.

His steam engine/tractor collection, was interesting as well.

He seemed to have a peaceful philosophical way of looking and handling life, which was pleasant to witness.

Typical example:
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I preferred the ones where he would make a hole near the bottom of the chimney, install an angled chute running into a skip, and then cheerfully work his way around the top, knocking the bricks loose a few at a time and chucking them down the spout! He believed that if a chimney had taken so much effort to erect, it deserved the dignity of taking some effort to bring down again (unlike the 'dynamite men').

He was a man who was comfortable in his existence. As he put it, "One mistake up here, and it's half a day out with the undertaker".




P.S. His angled counterbalanced bucket aerial ropeway method of bringing rubble down was a wonder to behold too.
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They are a thing. You need “planning permission”.
You need planning permission for the structure's overall shape, size, and location. There may also be requirements for the appearance to blend with its surroundings. Some conservation areas are really strict on this. Once you have planning approval, you also need building approval for the detailed design meeting construction standards, and the construction will be monitored at key stages - e.g. checking the footings are properly constructed before the trenches get filled in, and nobody can see,
 
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I preferred the ones where he would make a hole near the bottom of the chimney, install an angled chute running into a skip, and then cheerfully work his way around the top, knocking the bricks loose a few at a time and chucking them down the spout! He believed that if a chimney had taken so much effort to erect, it deserved the dignity of taking some effort to bring down again (unlike the 'dynamite men').

He was a man who was comfortable in his existence. As he put it, "One mistake up here, and it's half a day out with the undertaker".




P.S. His angled counterbalanced bucket aerial ropeway method of bringing rubble down was a wonder to behold too.

Thanks, I enjoyed watching that video.  Times gone by.  I see what you mean, taking it down brick by brick, is sort of respecting the massive chimney, and has its own, sort of art to it.

He seem to imply/say, it's when other buildings are too close, to safely demolish it, in one big go.  They take it down, brick by brick.

From that video, when Fred reached the top of the chimney, and was climbing over that flimsy wooden scaffolding structure, which seemed very wobbly, then took both of his hands off the latter.  Was something, I'd not be happy to do, especially at 200+ feet, with a big wind, and no safety harness or anything.

I presume, these days, there would be some kind of safety harness, which is clipped to various parts of the ladder, as it's climbed, so if you slip, you are limited/held, by the length of safety rope, perhaps 10 or 15 feet.
 

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Reminds me of the UK farmer that built a huge castle without planning permission and hid it behind bales of hay, it’s now been demolished, I liked it personally.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/feb/03/farmer-castle-home-haystack-demolition

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Reminds me of the UK farmer that built a huge castle without planning permission and hid it behind bales of hay, it’s now been demolished, I liked it personally.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/feb/03/farmer-castle-home-haystack-demolition

They tried to exploit the fact, that if it remains undiscovered for a period of time, it can then remain.  But, apparently the law doesn't work like that, in that specific case.  So if you hide it on purpose, it doesn't count, or something.

You're right, it did seem like a nice building.  Unfortunately, they have to knock down things like that, otherwise, people would exploit the situation to extremes, and buy up a very cheap field.  Then build a 750 bedroom Hotel, or block of flats on it, and other sillies.

In this case (tunnel), I think it was just built for genuine (Youtube) reasons, not to make a profit or make where they live a lot bigger, without getting planning-permission.
 

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Yes, lord only knows what could happen if plebians were allowed to build their own homes on any private land.  I mean, won't someone consider the inflated property prices?  I shudder to think of a drop in house prices - it shall ruin the character of the entire street.  Harrumph. 
 


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